NBA Chatter Thread

Deuce · Jul 13, 2014

@jaysonst: Dazzling inning for Miami's Domingo German. K'd Kris Bryant on 95-mph heat. K'd Joey Gallo on big-time hook.

Texas Ace · Jul 13, 2014

1bigfan13 said:
Talk about a crazy swing in emotions for the Rockets and their fans.

First it looked like Bosh was a virtual lock.

Then it sounded as if they'd not only sign Bosh but also match the Mavs' offer on Parsons.

Now they have neither and only have Ariza to show for it.

Houston took a step back this offseason. They'll probably still make the playoffs but I see them as a 7th or 8th seed now.

Definitely a disappointing offseason, but 7th or 8th seed?

No way.

Portland didn't get any better, neither did Memphis or Golden State. This is a team that still has Harden and Howard, so there is no way they finish worse than 6th, but I'm guessing they finish 4th or 5th again.

Texas Ace · Jul 13, 2014

Jiggyfly said:
What are you going to give up for him, Dallas has nothing Boston would want.

Deuce said:
Outside of draft picks I'm not sure they have much to offer.

It would have to be a 3 team deal, obviously.

Simpleton · Jul 13, 2014

McDermott with a cool 31 in his 2nd summer league game, can't complain about that.

Smitty · Jul 14, 2014

Disappointing that the Bulls couldn't land Melo, but not the end of the world. He's gone back to a poorly run team that will not be a threat to them until Taj and Noah are past their primes most likely. I don't buy that the Knicks are gonna grab two superstars, the biggest name next year is Marc Gasol. They have to wait TWO years for KD and he fills the same role as Melo anyway. Not scared of them.

Cleveland could be scary, especially if they get Love, but they are also probably a few years away. This was a bad team last year. And now that Miami is taken down a notch, you've gotta like the Bulls chances if Rose stays healthy.

They have the best front court in the East now, bar none, now that Mirotic has signed. Noah-Taj-Gasol-Mirotic is the perfect foursome of rim protection, rebounding, versatile defense, post scoring, passing and outside shooting. No matter what front court strength another team has, the Bulls can present a counter to it that is likely better.

Biggest weakness.... Playmaking from the wings. McDermott and Dunleavy are nice pieces, but they are outside shooters, not facilitators. Woulda been nice to get back DJ Augustin instead of Hinrich, maybe, bc he's a better ball handler and scorer, but Thibs just loves Kirks defense.

I wonder if we can move Boozer's contract with a pick and take back a wing scorer somewhere. Not an elite guy, someone more on the level of a Morrow.

Clay_Allison · Jul 14, 2014

Since the Spurs didn't land Gasol, why not offer the MLE to Shawn Marion?

Simpleton · Jul 14, 2014

I'm thinking McDermott should be able to put up Klay Thompson like stats, around 15-20 PPG, a handful of RPG/APG and around 40% from 3. The main difference is that McDermott's athleticism/defense is average at best for his position while Thompson's is very good, although I think it's possible, maybe even likely that McDermott becomes a more efficient scorer.

Jiggyfly · Jul 14, 2014

DYST Now @DYST_Now

SOURCE: Detroit Pistons are actively working the phone lines. Looking to work a sign & trade w Greg Monroe. Pelicans & Rockets in the hunt.
10:10 AM - 14 Jul 2014

Smitty · Jul 14, 2014

Interesting.... can Monroe play with Howard?

Smitty · Jul 15, 2014

http://grantland.com/features/carmelo-anthony-new-york-knicks-legacy/

Great article.

Simpleton · Jul 15, 2014

Yea, this defines Carmelo to me right here:

All in all, that was a catastrophic trade considering Denver didn’t have any leverage whatsoever. And it happened because Carmelo wanted more money — the same choice he made last weekend, again, and the same choice you and I would probably make too. Carmelo inadvertently created the narrative that threatens to defines him. There’s a good chance he will play his entire career, then retire, without ever finding the right team. Unless the Knicks miraculously strike oil next summer, his own version of the 2011 Mavericks can’t happen. His prime will come and go, and that will be that.

He's either a flat out idiot who hasn't been able to connect the dots in his head or he's a greedy born loser who would rather get paid ~22 a year on a complete shit team than ~17 a year on a team that could finally help him fully realize his potential.

Either way I have no sympathy for him, he will never win a title, or even compete for one unless he joins a super team after this contract is up in his mid-30's, and he doesn't deserve it either.

Carp · Jul 15, 2014

At least no one is bitter about him not joining their team.

Carp · Jul 15, 2014

They overpaid, but I do like the additions of Augustin and Meeks in Det. I loved Meeks in Philly...shooter and willing defender.

Smitty · Jul 15, 2014

Carp said:
They overpaid, but I do like the additions of Augustin and Meeks in Det. I loved Meeks in Philly...shooter and willing defender.

I definitely wanted Augustin back. It's too bad.

Tony D · Jul 15, 2014

Simpleton said:
Yea, this defines Carmelo to me right here:

He's either a flat out idiot who hasn't been able to connect the dots in his head or he's a greedy born loser who would rather get paid ~22 a year on a complete shit team than ~17 a year on a team that could finally help him fully realize his potential.

Either way I have no sympathy for him, he will never win a title, or even compete for one unless he joins a super team after this contract is up in his mid-30's, and he doesn't deserve it either.

Sour grapes. Again, next off season the Knicks will have a ton of cap space. Amare and Bargnani are off the books. And unlike Chicago guys will got to NYC and MSG to play. They will not be a shit team for long.

Tony D · Jul 15, 2014

Texas Ace said:
Solid player, but he isn't the offensive player Deng is.

And while Ariza is a good defender, so is Deng.

Deng is the better player who can help a team more, and he should have been target over Ariza.

No, he's not the offensive player Deng is, but he has really improved his 3pt shooting. With Harden and Howard getting most of the touches he's a real good fit in Houston.

Rev · Jul 15, 2014

Lol. Can always count on Tony.

Jiggyfly · Jul 15, 2014

Simpleton said:
Yea, this defines Carmelo to me right here:

He's either a flat out idiot who hasn't been able to connect the dots in his head or he's a greedy born loser who would rather get paid ~22 a year on a complete shit team than ~17 a year on a team that could finally help him fully realize his potential.

Either way I have no sympathy for him, he will never win a title, or even compete for one unless he joins a super team after this contract is up in his mid-30's, and he doesn't deserve it either.

Jiggyfly · Jul 15, 2014

Carp said:
At least no one is bitter about him not joining their team.

Simpleton · Jul 15, 2014

I find it funny how you all joke about my opinion yet it's pretty much the consensus among fans, the media and supposedly those close to Carmelo.

So basically, you can all go fuck yourselves.

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