NBA Chatter Thread

[Jiggyfly]

 

[Rev]

 

[Simpleton]

 

[Carp]

I feel exactly the same way. We have to wait a little bit but I thinkthey picked up somesolid contributors. But this whole draft hinges on Embiid. with his health he will be boom or bust. but its a good gamble because if he busts they will be back in the lottery again anyway to try again. But if he booms, the sky is the limit for him and for the team because in 2 years there will be a lot of pieces around him.

They will have to have a plan in place long term to add some shooters. As much as I like McDaniels, he is not a shooter...he is more of an energy athlete type. Considering we'll have Embiid/Noel up front, pretty limited offensively, you will have to get some scoring from the 2 and 3. Looking at next years crop it is pretty flush with C, PF, and PG products...so hopefully they have a plan to fix that.

 

[Jiggyfly]

They will have to have a plan in place long term to add some shooters. As much as I like McDaniels, he is not a shooter...he is more of an energy athlete type. Considering we'll have Embiid/Noel up front, pretty limited offensively, you will have to get some scoring from the 2 and 3. Looking at next years crop it is pretty flush with C, PF, and PG products...so hopefully they have a plan to fix that.

If Embid is healthy he is not limited offensively he should be a double team type threat.

 

[Carp]

If Embid is healthy he is not limited offensively he should be a double team type threat.

He is limited...and would be even more limited with no shooters on the perimeter to stretch the D. His offense improved, no doubt, but his strength is his defense, not his offense.

 

[Jiggyfly]

He is limited...and would be even more limited with no shooters on the perimeter to stretch the D. His offense improved, no doubt, but his strength is his defense, not his offense.

He is being compared to Hakeem offensively that's not limited, his defense is not what made him a consensus #1 before the injuries.

His projected upside is as a 23 plus per game scorer.

Now I agree he is unproven as a scorer but he is not a limited offensive player like Noel.

 

[Carp]

He is being compared to Hakeem offensively that's not limited, his defense is not what made him a consensus #1 before the injuries.

His projected upside is as a 23 plus per game scorer.

I am not going to argue this point. I'll just say IMO he is limited offensively. He lacks offensive awareness...IMO.

Greg Oden was compared to David Robinson and Bill Russell too.

I am managing my expectations...he has a chance to be good, but I don't think he is a guy who will average 23 PPG or a legit team in scoring.

 

[1bigfan13]

God bless Miami fans.

I like Shabazz Napier myself but these poor souls in Miami are talking him up as if he's the next Isaiah Thomas.

 

[Smitty]

I like what Charlotte is doing and I think they could definitely be pretty nice next year considering how shit the East is.

Of course if they hadn't changed back to the classic Hornets name/colors I probably wouldn't feel this way.

Ditto, I'd want them to fail just because they have the name Bobcats.

 

[Texas Ace]

And there could be issues in Chicago with Rose so why is he such a good fit in Chicago, we already know Rose does not want anyone taking his shine.

Their games shouldn't conflict much because Rose isn't a volume scorer like Melo/Harden are.

He also doesn't need the ball to go through him a lot in order to find his rhythm like those players do either.

I actually think Melo and Rose are a better fit, but two key questions remain:

One, will Rose ever be the player he was before?

Two, as you said, how willing is Rose to welcome another star?

 

[Carp]

Rose averages 17 shots per game and Melo 19 over the course of their career...they are different, but not by a ton.

 

[Jiggyfly]

Their games shouldn't conflict much because Rose isn't a volume scorer like Melo/Harden are.

He also doesn't need the ball to go through him a lot in order to find his rhythm like those players do either.

I actually think Melo and Rose are a better fit, but two key questions remain:



One, will Rose ever be the player he was before?

Two, as you said, how willing is Rose to welcome another star?

What?

Harden has averaged just under 17 shots a game since being a starter Rose has averaged just over 18 in his healthy years, 19.5 shots his MVP year how is he not a volume scorer?

Please try again to explain yourself.

 

[Simpleton]

I'll say this, if Melo is hellbent on getting the max, or something very close to the max, I would let him go elsewhere. The three in Miami all took paycuts for the sake of winning and Melo is not on the level of LeBron, nor is he good enough to get paid 23-24 million a year and still have a good enough team around him to win titles.

He has to make a choice, he can either take a pay cut (I'm thinking around 18-19 a year) and compete for titles, or he can be paid his max and never win shit.

I'll roll with Rose/Butler/McDermott/Gibson/Noah with Mirotic and a bunch of cap space if Melo insists on the max.

 

[1bigfan13]

I just saw this on NBATV

LaVine clearly says "Fuck me" after being drafted by the Timberwolves.


I'd say this clearly trumps Embiid's face.

 

[Clay_Allison]

I read today that Bosh and Wade, as well as Haslem, have opted out in Miami. So, Miami has 66 million in cap room to mix and match another All-Star team. They could sign LeBron and Anthony and put some other pieces around them.

 

[1bigfan13]

I think LeBron and Wade will definitely be back but I could see Bosh moving on to play elsewhere.

Also, I just don't see Melo and LeBron playing together. They play the same position; unless the Heat plan on sliding one of them over to PF. Both have guarded other PFs in spurts but neither has played the position permanently and there are a lot of talented PFs across the league who would give them fits on the defensive end.

I just don't see it working on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[Carp]

So Jason Kidd tries to get a Doc, Pop, Van Gundy type deal and the Nets said no...so now he is on his way to take an exec position in Mil. Weird.

 

[Deuce]

So Jason Kidd tries to get a Doc, Pop, Van Gundy type deal and the Nets said no...so now he is on his way to take an exec position in Mil. Weird.

I guess he's tight with the MIL owner so it's gonna happen, but he's lucky. Apparently the Nets are pissed and wouldn't bring him back at all. He could've ended up unemployed.

 

[Carp]

I don't get how he felt he was ready for that...although the Nets are screwed for the foreseeable future.