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2025 Season | Week 12 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Philadelphia Eagles @ Dallas Cowboys | 11/23/2025
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Pressuring Mahomes is the key. He doesn't move nearly as well as he used to. Get in his face and he isn't automatic at all.
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Trey Smith will be out too.
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I agree 100% with everything you said about Schotty.
Personally, I'm not a fan and I never liked the hire from the start. And I'll say it again, there's a reason why the guy has been in the league for so long and is the son of one of the great NFL HC's of the 80s and 90s, and yet never got a look as an HC.
Of all the stupid things he did yesterday, not kicking the FG to take the lead towards the end of the game was the worst and it's something not even Jason Garrett would do.
You never.... NEVER....pass up on the opportunity to take the lead late in the game. I get that you're disappointed you couldn't get into the endzone there and I get wanting to be aggressive against the defending champs because Jimmy Johnson always did the same when he felt they had a big challenge in front of them, but under no circumstance is passing on the FG there justifiable.
I'm certain that this goof is going to cost us a game down the stretch with his poor decision making.
And yes, he reminds me of Garrett with his inability to learn from his mistakes. That was arguably Garrett's greatest flaw -- that even after 10 years as the HC, he just never seemed to learn ANYTHING no matter how many times whatever that thing was failed.
I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a bad feeling that next year is gonna be like those disappointing Garrett years. We're going to have an elite offense and we may just have a pretty damn good defense if we draft right and actually decide to be active players in the FA market.
But it's all going to be for naught if this guy is just a Garrett 2.0, but that's exactly what I said he would be when we hired him.
I hope I'm wrong.
I agree 100% with everything you said about Schotty.
Personally, I'm not a fan and I never liked the hire from the start. And I'll say it again, there's a reason why the guy has been in the league for so long and is the son of one of the great NFL HC's of the 80s and 90s, and yet never got a look as an HC.
Of all the stupid things he did yesterday, not kicking the FG to take the lead towards the end of the game was the worst and it's something not even Jason Garrett would do.
You never.... NEVER....pass up on the opportunity to take the lead late in the game. I get that you're disappointed you couldn't get into the endzone there and I get wanting to be aggressive against the defending champs because Jimmy Johnson always did the same when he felt they had a big challenge in front of them, but under no circumstance is passing on the FG there justifiable.
I'm certain that this goof is going to cost us a game down the stretch with his poor decision making.
And yes, he reminds me of Garrett with his inability to learn from his mistakes. That was arguably Garrett's greatest flaw -- that even after 10 years as the HC, he just never seemed to learn ANYTHING no matter how many times whatever that thing was failed.
I really hope I'm wrong, but I have a bad feeling that next year is gonna be like those disappointing Garrett years. We're going to have an elite offense and we may just have a pretty damn good defense if we draft right and actually decide to be active players in the FA market.
But it's all going to be for naught if this guy is just a Garrett 2.0, but that's exactly what I said he would be when we hired him.
I hope I'm wrong.
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Definitely agree, my issue is that we're seeing the same dumb shit happen within just a few weeks of each other that any top-tier coach would be all over their players asses about.
False starts in goal to go situations on the 2/3 yard line, lining up offsides on 3rd down to negate a stop that would've gotten the defense off the field, going for 4th down's on the opening drive of games, starting back to back games at home extremely slow with sloppy turnovers and penalties.
I don't think going for it on 4th on the opening drive is a terrible decision in and of itself no matter the situation, but you have to have some discretion, especially when it's at midfield or taking a guaranteed 3 off the board.
We'll see, he could definitely learn and improve like Garrett never really did, but I'm very suspicious to say the least.
False starts in goal to go situations on the 2/3 yard line, lining up offsides on 3rd down to negate a stop that would've gotten the defense off the field, going for 4th down's on the opening drive of games, starting back to back games at home extremely slow with sloppy turnovers and penalties.
I don't think going for it on 4th on the opening drive is a terrible decision in and of itself no matter the situation, but you have to have some discretion, especially when it's at midfield or taking a guaranteed 3 off the board.
We'll see, he could definitely learn and improve like Garrett never really did, but I'm very suspicious to say the least.
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Damn, I'm very skeptical of Schotty's I Heart U coaching style, and I think it can directly lead to stupid play and penalties.
But please don't compare him to that ultimate fraud/poser/backstabber/politician called Jason Garrett.
But please don't compare him to that ultimate fraud/poser/backstabber/politician called Jason Garrett.
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Making these games "our Super Bowl," is what losers do though. It's what the Eagles used to do every time they played us back when they had no Super Bowls.
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Me neither.
Some people like to say "Everyone will bitch one way or the other," but that's not true.
The more accurate thing would be "Some people in Group 1 will bitch if he does it this way and fails, and some people in Group 2 will bitch if he does it this way and it fails, so he'll take criticism from some group in either case, if he fails."
I am on the record thinking the smart thing would have been to take the points (though I would have bitched about why not hand it to Javonte after he got you to the 1 yard line). I then would have bitched about the defense letting up the winning TD.
But not about the decision to take the lead with 3 min left.
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I get that discipline isn't learned over night. But Clowney has had problems lining up offsides since joining the team. Figure that shit out. You've got the ball inside the 2 yard line, you can't be fucking up, figure it out.
And what retard though running Turpin up the gut was a good idea? He is out there doing that shit but Blue is the guy who is a problem? Look in the fucking mirror.
Honestly I was thrilled yesterday. But now that the high of winning has worn off I'm actually just annoyed that it took a 21 point comeback and last second field goal to win. That game should have never been that close. And if you're relying on winning like that you're not a real competitor.
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Yeah, I see a lot of Garrett here.
I think a lesser coach than McCarthy, better than Campo/Wade though.
Gotta be honest I kinda wish McCarthy was here right now with this roster.
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I agree and in the end we won so technically "it worked out"
Put me in the camp that I don't hate going for it. I just hate the play call. You miss and you're giving the other team the ball at the 2 yard line. You've got a great chance to get a stop with good field position. Plus you have a kicker that can hit from midfield.
You kick the field goal and you're very possibly setting yourself up for overtime when the other team starts with the ball at the 35 and will be going for it every 4th down. Anyway, I get both sides of it. But I'll trust my offense to get in field goal range if we get the ball back. More than preventing a team getting a field goal starting at the 35 going for it every fourth down.
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Absolutely.
They never got this aggressive with him in charge.
I'd love to see this current team under his command, but obviously that's not gonna happen.
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The issue with McCarthy was seemingly that he wanted the offense to be his, to me the offense now is noticeably better schematically, not just because Pickens is a monster.
But to me the run game variation is more impressive than anything we had under McCarthy, but I don't think he would've empowered Schottenheimer like this if he was still HC.
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Perhaps, but I feel like we've hit some skids that McCarthy would have ironed out if he was still here.
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McCarthy as steady hand with Adams running the offense, especially the run game, would be ideal.
Schotty isn't going anywhere, though. That's why I hope BS somehow could just oversee things and let Adams run the offense.
Probably won't ever happen because Dak loves Schotty, and I doubt BS wants to give up playcalling anyway.
Schotty isn't going anywhere, though. That's why I hope BS somehow could just oversee things and let Adams run the offense.
Probably won't ever happen because Dak loves Schotty, and I doubt BS wants to give up playcalling anyway.
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I agree with this. Imagine what the record would be if we had Quinnen from week 1.
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Not "just", but a lot of it is Pickens. Enormous upgrade over Cooks. We don't win yesterday for example without Pickens.
It is, but again, Williams is a big upgrade over what we've had at RB the past 2 or 3 years.
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I think we'd be at least 7-4, maybe even 8-3, although the warts that I'm seeing play out over and over within just a handful of games falls on Schottenheimer and I definitely have some concerns.
I'm not saying he should be fired and I'm willing to see how it goes, but there are definitely some negative trends that I'm concerned about.
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It's what happens when you hire a nepo baby instead of conducting a real search. He said he went for it late in the 4th because he wanted to "put Philly away." How does a 7-pt lead with 3:46 left do that?
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