President Trump Thread (Part 2)

[Irving Cowboy]

This is just spitefulness.

Trump has done so much more to advance a conservative agenda than Biden and Obama.

I mean, he's done more than Bush 2 and Clinton too, but you could at least have some arguable points with them, I dunno, Bush 2 was a social conservative, Clinton ended up compromising on welfare reform and some other small government institutions once he lost Congress, etc. I mean, if you really want to run down the pluses and minuses George Bush starting 2 wars and appointing John Roberts (savior of Obamacare and unlimited government power via his Sebelius decision) is pretty hard to defend against Trump though, and Clinton was only forced into behaving because he had no power.

I think you are misreading this.

I think the only one Reagan would have agreed with the most is Bush Sr, although their differences are still talked about to this day.

The rest of them he would have no use for.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

Awww, you’re such a misunderstood victim.

That's the MAGA mantra.

 

[Cotton]

Stupid and probably unconstitutional.

This is how I feel, and you won't find anyone more patriotic than me. Free speech is free speech.

 

[Cujo]

I literally don't get why it's "funny".

It's not. I mean, they're trying to be but it's not.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

USAID was started by Nixon, why didn't Reagan get rid of it then? And nothing is wrong with cutting spending. It's the way it was done, nevermind the ridiculous chainsaw stunt, in that institutions were just destroyed because they didn't meet with a businessman's agenda.

As Smitty said, that's one of the many "institutions" that started out with good intentions but over time was hijacked and distorted. That's not a hard concept to grasp.

Maybe one day you'll acknowledge that there is a way to run a business and a way to run a government. There is ample proof that Trump knows how to run neither one, and until you can admit that, your opinion means zero to anyone not wearing that fucking stupid red hat.

It's not run like a business because it can't be, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be run as efficiently as possible like a business and stay on proper task like a business. If it had been run more like a business maybe we wouldn't be 35 trillion dollars in debt.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Thoughts?

I disagree pretty strongly with this.

 

[Cujo]

Thoughts?

I hate it when people burn our flag but you can't lock people up for it. Slippery slope.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I think the only one Reagan would have agreed with the most is Bush Sr, although their differences are still talked about to this day.

I highly, highly doubt he'd have agreed with Bush Sr. the most.

According to Grok, Reagan didn't make any public criticism of Bush, but...

"Private accounts, such as those from Reagan’s associates, suggest he was disappointed with some of Bush’s decisions, particularly the 1990 tax increase, which broke Bush’s “no new taxes” pledge—a stark contrast to Reagan’s tax-cut legacy."

 

[bbgun]

"I've also banned oversized helmets at AT&T Stadium," Trump added.

 

[Smitty]

I think you are misreading this.

I think the only one Reagan would have agreed with the most is Bush Sr, although their differences are still talked about to this day.

The rest of them he would have no use for.

Probably fair to say Bush Sr at the front of the list because he was Reagan's VP.

Not fair at all to put Trump in the same tier with Obama and Biden, or even Clinton.

This is coming from someone who, again, said if it's "lesser of two evils," then it's ok to "throw your vote away on a third party."

But you've yet to make a compelling or even coherent argument as to why the tax cuts, de-regulation, Supreme Court nominees, combating the deep state, closing the border, taking away power from the bureacracy, substantial progress on peace and trade, etc, don't constitute a positive worth putting up with his annoying down sides.

That's the part that doesn't make a lick of sense.

Just like another paragon of conservatism in the current moment, Rand and Ron Paul have their share of criticisms of Trump, but they ultimately support him because he is on their side for a lot.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I highly, highly doubt he'd have agreed with Bush Sr. the most.

According to Grok, Reagan didn't make any public criticism of Bush, but...

"Private accounts, such as those from Reagan’s associates, suggest he was disappointed with some of Bush’s decisions, particularly the 1990 tax increase, which broke Bush’s “no new taxes” pledge—a stark contrast to Reagan’s tax-cut legacy."

Yeah, Bush was chosen for geographical reasons and because he was establishment R, but he was a globalist though and though, unlike Reagan.

 

[Cotton]

but he was a globalist though and though, unlike Reagan.

Yep. Couldn't stand his foreign policies.

 

[Bipo]

 

[Chocolate Lab]

But I thought we were all cultists who agreed with everything he said and did...

 

[Cotton]

But I thought we were all cultists who agreed with everything he said and did...

I hate this move.

 

[bbgun]

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Awesome

 

[bbgun]

 

[Cujo]

I respect his objectivity.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I respect his objectivity.

I do too, you can hate Trump and still admit when he does something positive. Its ok.