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Geez.. it’s just a prank, I’m sure Sanders will be just fine. He plays in the nfl and will be a millionaire. Unlike Colin Kawperfuck claims, I am sure he won’t be oppressed by any of this. They will probably make this out to be more than it is I am sure with tons of media coverage and legal threats
 

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Geez.. it’s just a prank, I’m sure Sanders will be just fine. He plays in the nfl and will be a millionaire. Unlike Colin Kawperfuck claims, I am sure he won’t be oppressed by any of this.
I hate to tell you this, but you're totally wrong.

Shedeur, despite growing up in the lap of luxury and privilege, is the foremost victim in America, nay, the world. There aren't literally billions of people on this planet more worthy of sympathy than a celebrated college QB (who is already a millionaire thanks to NIL, BTW) getting drafted later than he hoped.
 

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One thing I found interesting is that the Eagles really didn't do much of anything to address losing their 2nd and 3rd best pass rushers last year (Josh Sweat and Milton Williams).

Their entire defense last year was predicated on getting to the QB with 4 (Sweat, Williams, Carter and Nolan Smith) and dropping 7, they barely played anybody else in clear passing situations, and also lost Brandon Graham who was tied for 5th on the team in sacks.

Campbell was a bit of a steal with the injury situation, but he's an off-ball LB who is more of a blitzer than pure pass-rusher. Maybe they're expecting someone like Bryce Huff to bounce back or Azeez Ojulari to break out, but if the plan is to fill in their pass rush by blitzing off-ball LB's like Campbell and Baun I think they're going to be in for a rude awakening.

Their off-ball LB's are admittedly very good right now with Baun, Dean, Campbell and even Mondon who they just drafted, but Fangio has never really been about exotic blitz schemes, he's very similar to Eberflus actually where it's about winning with your down 4, playing zone behind it and rallying to the ball.

I didn't think there was any chance that Mike Green and Eze would get past both the Eagles and Skins, but here we are.
 

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One thing I found interesting is that the Eagles really didn't do much of anything to address losing their 2nd and 3rd best pass rushers last year (Josh Sweat and Milton Williams).

Their entire defense last year was predicated on getting to the QB with 4 (Sweat, Williams, Carter and Nolan Smith) and dropping 7, they barely played anybody else in clear passing situations, and also lost Brandon Graham who was tied for 5th on the team in sacks.

Campbell was a bit of a steal with the injury situation, but he's an off-ball LB who is more of a blitzer than pure pass-rusher. Maybe they're expecting someone like Bryce Huff to bounce back or Azeez Ojulari to break out, but if the plan is to fill in their pass rush by blitzing off-ball LB's like Campbell and Baun I think they're going to be in for a rude awakening.

Their off-ball LB's are admittedly very good right now with Baun, Dean, Campbell and even Mondon who they just drafted, but Fangio has never really been about exotic blitz schemes, he's very similar to Eberflus actually where it's about winning with your down 4, playing zone behind it and rallying to the ball.

I didn't think there was any chance that Mike Green and Eze would get past both the Eagles and Skins, but here we are.
DT Robinson was a superb pick in the 4th. He has the potential to be a great pass rushing DT on passing downs, if not the size for a full timer.
 

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Don't they need receiver help?

The Cowboys were prepared to select Arizona wideout Tetairoa McMillan in the first round before he went off the board to the Carolina Panthers. They did not draft a receiver after that. They say they like what they have on hand already -- from Jalen Tolbert's growth, KaVontae Turpin's big-play ability, the potential of Jalen Brooks and Ryan Flournoy and a full offseason of Jonathan Mingo, who was picked up in a trade last season. CeeDee Lamb still put up big-time numbers last season, but Dallas needs to make his life easier by adding more receivers to deflect at least some attention. The Cowboys know it, but now they have to show it with either a trade or free-agent addition. -- Todd Archer

I'm guessing there must have been a pretty big gap between Tet and Golden if this is true.
 

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DT Robinson was a superb pick in the 4th. He has the potential to be a great pass rushing DT on passing downs, if not the size for a full timer.
Maybe, I thought he was a better run defender than pass rusher.

He might be a piece by year 2 or 3 as an interior rusher, but I was expecting them to address their pass rush with premium resources, as opposed to stacking up off-ball LB's who they traditionally don't spend high picks on.
 

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Don't they need receiver help?

The Cowboys were prepared to select Arizona wideout Tetairoa McMillan in the first round before he went off the board to the Carolina Panthers. They did not draft a receiver after that. They say they like what they have on hand already -- from Jalen Tolbert's growth, KaVontae Turpin's big-play ability, the potential of Jalen Brooks and Ryan Flournoy and a full offseason of Jonathan Mingo, who was picked up in a trade last season. CeeDee Lamb still put up big-time numbers last season, but Dallas needs to make his life easier by adding more receivers to deflect at least some attention. The Cowboys know it, but now they have to show it with either a trade or free-agent addition. -- Todd Archer

I'm guessing there must have been a pretty big gap between Tet and Golden if this is true.
Yea and if they were "prepared" to take a WR at 12 they obviously know at some level that it's a need.

All of the bluster from Stephen is just posturing and negotiating through the media to an extent.

I think we can win 10, maybe 11 games with what we have if things fall right, but at the very least it's obvious that these guys aren't completely oblivious as to the need at the position.
 

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Maybe, I thought he was a better run defender than pass rusher.

He might be a piece by year 2 or 3 as an interior rusher, but I was expecting them to address their pass rush with premium resources, as opposed to stacking up off-ball LB's who they traditionally don't spend high picks on.
He had 7 sacks last year.
 

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He had 7 sacks last year.
Sure, as a 6th year senior with 5 in the previous four years.

He has potential for sure, but when I watched him I wasn't blown away enough by his pass rush to the point that I thought he could be one of the top 2-3 options as an interior rusher as a rookie.

Year 2-3? Maybe, but what I'm saying is their pass rush is what fueled their entire defense (and arguably team) last year and now it's a shell of itself unless someone like Huff or Ojulari explodes into a near Pro Bowl player.
 

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Yea and if they were "prepared" to take a WR at 12 they obviously know at some level that it's a need.

All of the bluster from Stephen is just posturing and negotiating through the media to an extent.

I think we can win 10, maybe 11 games with what we have if things fall right, but at the very least it's obvious that these guys aren't completely oblivious as to the need at the position.
Yeah he is a really good run defender. Despite the weight he played like a NT at times. He had moments as a pass rusher but he isn't twitchy. Very physical dude.
 
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