2024 POTUS Thread...

[Cujo]

Why is it so hard for some people to just say, I'm sorry, we fucked up, we will do better. Why is that a challenge for some people? I see Harris and Walz doing this all the time. They can't just admit they fucked up and explain why it won't happen again.

Hubris.

 

[Cotton]

 

[Cotton]

 

[Genghis Khan]

What a terrible answer.

The basic question was, 79% of the country thinks we're on the wrong track, you've been in power the last 3 and a half years. Why should people vote for more of that?

Her answer: Donald Trump is bad, amiright?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

She has to lie or obfuscate, because she knows there's no acceptable answer to that question.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

The fact that she is taking on interviews like this tells me the Democrats are worried. But the problem is it feels like it's actually causing her to spiral more. It is a sink or swim strategy and she is sinking. Maybe the hide her and keep her out of the pool strategy was better for her.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

She has to lie or obfuscate, because she knows there's no acceptable answer to that question.

Well yeah, the answer that would at least sound like the truth gets her into other massive problems. She can't just say, I wasn't President and the guy who was President had serious mental decline and wasn't able to do anything. So no, my Presidency would be nothing like the last 4 years.

Because then the obvious question is, you knew this and did nothing about it? And she can't escape that box of lies.

 

[Genghis Khan]

She has to lie or obfuscate, because she knows there's no acceptable answer to that question.

There are two answers to that question. Both are bullshit.

The first is, things are actually fine, much better than people think, and here's my evidence why...

Except they've been acknowledging the opposite the past couple months so they can't say number 1.

Number 2 is, the country is on the wrong track, but here's the evidence why it's on the wrong track and why it's not the fault of the current administration and here's what we've been doing to get things right again and here's the indicators that we have that it'll work.

And of course, she chose the third out of two options.

"Donald Trump is a wookie. That does not make sense."

 

[UncleMilti]

She made an every answer a filibuster. If I was Bret, I would've had to told her to stfu a couple of times.

Even the liberal news is stunned how poorly she did. And the fact she showed up 17 minutes late, and then cut the interview short by another 10 minutes? And we finally got to see the unhinged part they’ve kept under wraps… the part that the staffers complained about. Now we know why she’s been through over 100 different staffers during her time in the WH.

 

[UncleMilti]

Well yeah, the answer that would at least sound like the truth gets her into other massive problems. She can't just say, I wasn't President and the guy who was President had serious mental decline and wasn't able to do anything. So no, my Presidency would be nothing like the last 4 years.

Because then the obvious question is, you knew this and did nothing about it? And she can't escape that box of lies.

Great description. Her entire VP to “presidential candidate” has been one big box of lies and deceit.
Thankfully the polls are showing Americans are not buying into the bullshit.

 

[Cotton]

and then cut the interview short by another 10 minutes?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Even the liberal news is stunned how poorly she did. And the fact she showed up 17 minutes late, and then cut the interview short by another 10 minutes? And we finally got to see the unhinged part they’ve kept under wraps…

Which part exactly? I haven't watched the whole thing yet.

 

[boozeman]

This dude had a well composed question.

Who is impressed with Trump’s answer and why?

 

[Rev]

This dude had a well composed question.

Who is impressed with Trump’s answer and why?

That was gobbilygook. Neither presidential candidate can speak worth a shit. Vance can but Trump and Kamala either totally bypass the question or skirt it.

 

[bbgun]

That was gobbilygook. Neither presidential candidate can speak worth a shit. Vance can but Trump and Kamala either totally bypass the question or skirt it.

Dems had to settle for Kamala. She was imposed on them. Republicans at least had primaries, and voters had a choice of several other well-qualified candidates but chose Trump anyway, so they can't complain if he's an idiot. They knew it from Day 1.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

Rolling Stone:
Trump Crumbles When Pressed on Economic Policy in Tense Interview
Story by Nikki McCann Ramirez and Ryan Bort

Donald Trump continued his pre-election economic event tour on Tuesday with a lengthy interview with Bloomberg at the Economic Club of Chicago. It was a total mess.

Bloomberg Editor-In-Chief John Micklethwait did not take it easy on Trump, and it quickly became clear that the former president has no conception of the mechanics of or the potential ramifications of the economic platform he's running on. Bluntly, the former president was incoherent when pressed with real questions about his policies.

Micklethwait spent most of the interview attempting to break Trump out of what the former president repeatedly referred to as "the weave," his term for his rambling digressions - with ever-decreasing intelligibility - and general inability to focus on a given topic for more than a few seconds during his rallies and interviews.

Micklethwait didn't weave along with Trump, however, repeatedly working to bring him back on topic and answer the actual questions. The grilling exposed Trump's total cluelessness with regard to his own economic policy, and led Trump to attack Micklethwait as biased.

Here are the most notable moments from the most rigorous round of policy questioning Trump has been subjected to in recent memory.

Trump gets schooled on tariffs
The central pillar of Trump's economic plan is widespread tariffs on all imported goods, with penalties appearing to increase depending on how much he dislikes the country. Economists have warned that such a policy could have devastating effects on American consumers, who would be saddled with increased costs for all imported goods.

When questioned about the specifics of his plan, and if he was aware of its pitfalls, Trump seemed ignorant of basic economic principles, insisting that other countries, not American consumers, would pay for the tariffs.

When questioned about the specifics of his plan, and if he was aware of its pitfalls, Trump seemed ignorant of basic economic principles, insisting that other countries, not American consumers, would pay for the tariffs.

Micklethwait tried to explain the actual impact. "Three-trillion worth of imports and you will add tariffs to every single one of them, and push up the cost for all of these people to buy foreign goods," he said. "That is just simple mathematics."

Trump countered that he was "always good at mathematics," and that high tariffs - and thus costs - would force companies to move production into the United States.

"That will take many, many, many years," Micklethwait said, to which Trump replied that high enough penalties would make the move immediate as if companies could simply wand wave production plants, orchards, wineries, factories, and the like into existence.

The former president also insisted that his tariff proposal would not result in the loss of jobs that are dependent on trade, because companies that moved to the U.S. would not be subject to the tax. "All you have to do is build your plant in the United States and you don't have any tariffs," he said.

Trump gets frustrated and bashes the interviewer
Micklethwait's attempts to keep Trump on topic earned him no grace from the former president, who hates few things more than being contradicted.

When Micklethwait asked Trump to address a report by The Wall Street Journal estimating that his economic proposals would raise the national debt by upwards of $7 trillion, the former president fell back on his standard playbook: bashing the interviewer.

"What does The Wall Street Journal know? They've been wrong about everything, and so have you by the way, you've been wrong," Trump replied, crossing his arms and curling into his seat.

"You've been wrong all your life on this stuff," he added.

Trump responds to a question about Google by ranting about voting in Virginia
One theme of the interview was Trump totally avoiding giving straight answers to the questions Micklethwait asked him. The most egregious example came when Micklethwait asked Trump if he believes the Justice Department should break up Google.

Trump responded by sighing and ranting about Virginia's voter rolls. "The question is about Google, President Trump," Micklethwait replied. Trump then went on a spiel about how Google is unfair to him and doesn't show users any positive stories about him.

Trump claims immigrants would kill an audience member when asked how deportations will affect the job market
When Micklethwait noted that Trump's plan to deport 11 million undocumented workers would have a large impact on the American economy - as many undocumented migrants participate in the labor force - Trump immediately pivoted to crime.

"It came out last week that 125,000 people are horrible criminals at the highest level," Trump said and repeated a false claim that more than 13,000 undocumented migrants convicted of murder had been released into the country by the Biden administration. "We've had the best numbers but now we have the worst numbers and here is the problem, we have some of the worst criminals in the world coming in," he added.

"The issue I asked you about was the idea if you reduce immigration - every economist will tell you - if you have fewer people, there is a smaller economy," Micklethwait interjected after Trump ranted about murderous migrants for several minutes. Trump continued and at one point singled out a member of the audience, calling her a "beautiful woman."

"They will look at you - down [there] a beautiful woman - they'll look at you and they will kill you," he said.

An exasperated Micklethwait noted that the crime rate has actually gone down under Biden.

Trump responds to a question about how he'd cut government spending by talking about Air Force One
At one point in the conversation, Trump, after speaking at length about rockets, reiterated his past assertion that he would nominate billionaire Elon Musk to his government and put him in charge of cutting wasteful spending and regulations. When asked by Micklethwait to give an example of how he would cut waste, Trump pointed to the remodeling of Air Force One.

Trump is unable to say how he'd help small businesses
Trump's tariff proposal could be a disaster for small businesses that rely on imports. Micklethwait noted that when Trump imposed a tariff on Chinese imports while he was in office - one that is smaller that what he is proposing for a second term - he helped Apple deal with the ramifications, giving them a deal. Micklethwait then asked Trump how he would help companies that aren't so big. Trump was unable to provide a response, repeatedly bringing up how he helped Apple despite Micklethwait's efforts to get him to address small businesses.
Trump doesn't deny he's been talking to Putin since he left office

Journalist Bob Woodward reports in his new book War that Trump has spoken to Russian President Vladimir Putin multiple times since leaving office. Trump's team denied this, but Trump declined to do so himself on Tuesday, telling Micklethwait that he won't comment on it, but that if he did talk to Putin it would "be a smart thing."

Trump mocks autoworkers
Trump argued that his tariffs will lead Mercedes-Benz to start building in the U.S., arguing that now they build everything in Germany and their cars are only assembled in the U.S. He doesn't seem to have much respect for the autoworkers at these "assembly" plants. "They take them out of a box and they assemble them," Trump said. "We could have a child do it."

Trump says Jan. 6 riot was filled with "love and peace"
Trump tried yet again to rewrite history about Jan. 6, 2021, when a mob of his supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol. He said on Tuesday that it was a "peaceful transfer of power," accused Micklethwait of being biased against him for asking the questions, and reiterated that he believes the 2020 election was "crooked."

"It was love and peace," Trump said of Jan. 6. "Some people went to the Capitol and a lot of strange things happened there, with people being waved into the Capitol by police," he added, nodding to conspiracy theories that the federal government helped orchestrate the riot to make Trump and his supporters look bad.

Trump claims his rambling is strategic
At one point, after Trump spent minutes meandering through multiple trains of thought in response to a question about the American dollar's status as an international reserve currency, Micklethwait attempted to interject into his rambling. Trump wasn't happy.

"You have got to be able to finish a thought because it is very important," Trump said.

"You've gone from the dollar to [Emmanuel Macron]," Micklethwait countered.

The former president claimed that his speaking style was "called the weave" and that "it's all these different things happening."

OK then.

 

[UncleMilti]

Which part exactly? I haven't watched the whole thing yet.

Towards the end she’s completely flummoxed by Bret going after her so she resorted to going off the chain about Trump instead of answering the questions. Not a good look at all.

 

[UncleMilti]

Rolling Stone:
Trump Crumbles When Pressed on Economic Policy in Tense Interview
Story by Nikki McCann Ramirez and Ryan Bort

Donald Trump continued his pre-election economic event tour on Tuesday with a lengthy interview with Bloomberg at the Economic Club of Chicago. It was a total mess.

Bloomberg Editor-In-Chief John Micklethwait did not take it easy on Trump, and it quickly became clear that the former president has no conception of the mechanics of or the potential ramifications of the economic platform he's running on. Bluntly, the former president was incoherent when pressed with real questions about his policies.

Micklethwait spent most of the interview attempting to break Trump out of what the former president repeatedly referred to as "the weave," his term for his rambling digressions - with ever-decreasing intelligibility - and general inability to focus on a given topic for more than a few seconds during his rallies and interviews.

Micklethwait didn't weave along with Trump, however, repeatedly working to bring him back on topic and answer the actual questions. The grilling exposed Trump's total cluelessness with regard to his own economic policy, and led Trump to attack Micklethwait as biased.

Here are the most notable moments from the most rigorous round of policy questioning Trump has been subjected to in recent memory.

Trump gets schooled on tariffs
The central pillar of Trump's economic plan is widespread tariffs on all imported goods, with penalties appearing to increase depending on how much he dislikes the country. Economists have warned that such a policy could have devastating effects on American consumers, who would be saddled with increased costs for all imported goods.

When questioned about the specifics of his plan, and if he was aware of its pitfalls, Trump seemed ignorant of basic economic principles, insisting that other countries, not American consumers, would pay for the tariffs.

When questioned about the specifics of his plan, and if he was aware of its pitfalls, Trump seemed ignorant of basic economic principles, insisting that other countries, not American consumers, would pay for the tariffs.

Micklethwait tried to explain the actual impact. "Three-trillion worth of imports and you will add tariffs to every single one of them, and push up the cost for all of these people to buy foreign goods," he said. "That is just simple mathematics."

Trump countered that he was "always good at mathematics," and that high tariffs - and thus costs - would force companies to move production into the United States.

"That will take many, many, many years," Micklethwait said, to which Trump replied that high enough penalties would make the move immediate as if companies could simply wand wave production plants, orchards, wineries, factories, and the like into existence.

The former president also insisted that his tariff proposal would not result in the loss of jobs that are dependent on trade, because companies that moved to the U.S. would not be subject to the tax. "All you have to do is build your plant in the United States and you don't have any tariffs," he said.

Trump gets frustrated and bashes the interviewer
Micklethwait's attempts to keep Trump on topic earned him no grace from the former president, who hates few things more than being contradicted.

When Micklethwait asked Trump to address a report by The Wall Street Journal estimating that his economic proposals would raise the national debt by upwards of $7 trillion, the former president fell back on his standard playbook: bashing the interviewer.

"What does The Wall Street Journal know? They've been wrong about everything, and so have you by the way, you've been wrong," Trump replied, crossing his arms and curling into his seat.

"You've been wrong all your life on this stuff," he added.

Trump responds to a question about Google by ranting about voting in Virginia
One theme of the interview was Trump totally avoiding giving straight answers to the questions Micklethwait asked him. The most egregious example came when Micklethwait asked Trump if he believes the Justice Department should break up Google.

Trump responded by sighing and ranting about Virginia's voter rolls. "The question is about Google, President Trump," Micklethwait replied. Trump then went on a spiel about how Google is unfair to him and doesn't show users any positive stories about him.

Trump claims immigrants would kill an audience member when asked how deportations will affect the job market
When Micklethwait noted that Trump's plan to deport 11 million undocumented workers would have a large impact on the American economy - as many undocumented migrants participate in the labor force - Trump immediately pivoted to crime.

"It came out last week that 125,000 people are horrible criminals at the highest level," Trump said and repeated a false claim that more than 13,000 undocumented migrants convicted of murder had been released into the country by the Biden administration. "We've had the best numbers but now we have the worst numbers and here is the problem, we have some of the worst criminals in the world coming in," he added.

"The issue I asked you about was the idea if you reduce immigration - every economist will tell you - if you have fewer people, there is a smaller economy," Micklethwait interjected after Trump ranted about murderous migrants for several minutes. Trump continued and at one point singled out a member of the audience, calling her a "beautiful woman."

"They will look at you - down [there] a beautiful woman - they'll look at you and they will kill you," he said.

An exasperated Micklethwait noted that the crime rate has actually gone down under Biden.

Trump responds to a question about how he'd cut government spending by talking about Air Force One
At one point in the conversation, Trump, after speaking at length about rockets, reiterated his past assertion that he would nominate billionaire Elon Musk to his government and put him in charge of cutting wasteful spending and regulations. When asked by Micklethwait to give an example of how he would cut waste, Trump pointed to the remodeling of Air Force One.

Trump is unable to say how he'd help small businesses
Trump's tariff proposal could be a disaster for small businesses that rely on imports. Micklethwait noted that when Trump imposed a tariff on Chinese imports while he was in office - one that is smaller that what he is proposing for a second term - he helped Apple deal with the ramifications, giving them a deal. Micklethwait then asked Trump how he would help companies that aren't so big. Trump was unable to provide a response, repeatedly bringing up how he helped Apple despite Micklethwait's efforts to get him to address small businesses.
Trump doesn't deny he's been talking to Putin since he left office

Journalist Bob Woodward reports in his new book War that Trump has spoken to Russian President Vladimir Putin multiple times since leaving office. Trump's team denied this, but Trump declined to do so himself on Tuesday, telling Micklethwait that he won't comment on it, but that if he did talk to Putin it would "be a smart thing."

Trump mocks autoworkers
Trump argued that his tariffs will lead Mercedes-Benz to start building in the U.S., arguing that now they build everything in Germany and their cars are only assembled in the U.S. He doesn't seem to have much respect for the autoworkers at these "assembly" plants. "They take them out of a box and they assemble them," Trump said. "We could have a child do it."

Trump says Jan. 6 riot was filled with "love and peace"
Trump tried yet again to rewrite history about Jan. 6, 2021, when a mob of his supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol. He said on Tuesday that it was a "peaceful transfer of power," accused Micklethwait of being biased against him for asking the questions, and reiterated that he believes the 2020 election was "crooked."

"It was love and peace," Trump said of Jan. 6. "Some people went to the Capitol and a lot of strange things happened there, with people being waved into the Capitol by police," he added, nodding to conspiracy theories that the federal government helped orchestrate the riot to make Trump and his supporters look bad.

Trump claims his rambling is strategic
At one point, after Trump spent minutes meandering through multiple trains of thought in response to a question about the American dollar's status as an international reserve currency, Micklethwait attempted to interject into his rambling. Trump wasn't happy.

"You have got to be able to finish a thought because it is very important," Trump said.

"You've gone from the dollar to [Emmanuel Macron]," Micklethwait countered.

The former president claimed that his speaking style was "called the weave" and that "it's all these different things happening."

OK then.

I watched this entire interview. This synopsis is not even close to what happened…Trump was actually calm and focused. We all know Trump is not a great communicator…you gotta kind of read between the lines when he speaks.

To say Trump was schooled is laughable and even the liberal news media grudgingly admitted Trump had the audience clapping and cheering for him at the end.

I’ll take Mr Wonderful and numerous other economic professionals word on tariffs before some clown off Bloomberg, which BTW he got schooled by Trump on both inflation, tariffs, and how the Federal Reserve works.
Rolling Stone is nothing but a liberal vomit box of slanted shit.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Rolling Stone is nothing but a liberal vomit box of slanted shit.

Yep. Not remotely credible. They don't even get music right, and haven't since... maybe ever. I sure as shit don't trust them on anything else.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

I have to laugh at you guys who believe anything that comes out of that fucking guy's mouth like it's the gospel.

Unbelievable.