The Conspiracy Theory Thread

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So what's everybody think? There is alien tech? Or just advanced tech that the US possesses that it developed on its own that it is hiding?

Or that it's all a disinformation campaign to deflect from something else they have going on?

Either way something is happening, this isn't all just coincidence.
All very good questions.
 

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Rogan said on the Shellenberger interview this week that if he WAS trying to hide something, he would absolutely set up a bunch of whistleblowers and leaks to come up, by feeding them fake info under the guise of it being real, and then the whistleblowers would unknowingly take their "leaks," public, and then when society investigated the leaks it would all lead to nothing. This would erode the public trust in the veracity of the whistleblowers so that whatever shit they actually had going on could remain hidden in plain sight.

I can buy it. In which case Shellenberger may not be lying but his whistleblower might have been fed deliberately false information by a high-up who WANTS there to be a craze as people scramble looking for evidence about secret government UAP programs which don't really exist.

It would make a nice deflection, for example, from say the public getting fixated on when the hell the JFK files will be released.
 

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Rogan said on the Shellenberger interview this week that if he WAS trying to hide something, he would absolutely set up a bunch of whistleblowers and leaks to come up, by feeding them fake info under the guise of it being real, and then the whistleblowers would unknowingly take their "leaks," public, and then when society investigated the leaks it would all lead to nothing. This would erode the public trust in the veracity of the whistleblowers so that whatever shit they actually had going on could remain hidden in plain sight.

I can buy it. In which case Shellenberger may not be lying but his whistleblower might have been fed deliberately false information by a high-up who WANTS there to be a craze as people scramble looking for evidence about secret government UAP programs which don't really exist.

It would make a nice deflection, for example, from say the public getting fixated on when the hell the JFK files will be released.
Yeah, I think government does this sort of stuff more than we will ever know. It's like a classic magic trick. Get everyone to look over here, while the real trick is happening over there.
 

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So what's everybody think? There is alien tech? Or just advanced tech that the US possesses that it developed on its own that it is hiding?

Or that it's all a disinformation campaign to deflect from something else they have going on?

Either way something is happening, this isn't all just coincidence.

I'm open to any possibility, but I haven't seen compelling evidence that there are aliens among us. Everything I've heard and seen could just as easily be explained as unpublicized military tech.

There's zero question that there is classified advanced military tech that the public doesn't know about. So to me, any UFO type of sighting has to clear that hurdle first.

Plus, if there's anyone in the world who is in a position to know or semi know and would say something if aliens have visited it's Elon, and he seems to doubt it pretty strongly.
 

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There's zero question that there is classified advanced military tech that the public doesn't know about. So to me, any UFO type of sighting has to clear that hurdle first.
This is by far the most likely truth. Military or just government owned/controlled at least.
 

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I'm also not sure I've heard a convincing explanation for why aliens would try to hide from us if they did visit.
 

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I'm no expert on this to say the least, but my best guess from what I've seen would be that the government does know aliens (or their technology, not necessarily other life forms themselves) are here but what are they to do about it? What about that video that leaked a few years ago of the fighter plane footage tracking that UFO and the pilot talking with others about how it's so fast they can barely track it? And then it seems to disappear into the ocean. The experts I heard on that said that was so far ahead of anything we've developed that there's no way that's something we or the Russians or Chinese developed.

And I could totally see their not wanting to reveal it because 1) it could cause panic, and 2) they don't want to admit that there's something out there they can't control or combat.
 

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I'm also not sure I've heard a convincing explanation for why aliens would try to hide from us if they did visit.
I don't have an answer. But hypothetically if Aliens did exist their intelligence level would be probably far beyond our current comprehension. So it would probably be similar to an ant trying to understand why we are putting a bait trap out. We try to think logically in terms of our comprehension ability. But obviously we would be far behind an alien species in terms of this.

Plus everyone has a conception in their head of what an Alien is. But it's entirely possible that we aren't even in the correct stratosphere of what an "alien" would look like or even be. It could be a life force made out of something we don't know even exists or understands yet. Like trying to explain electricity to a caveman.
 

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I don't have an answer. But hypothetically if Aliens did exist their intelligence level would be probably far beyond our current comprehension. So it would probably be similar to an ant trying to understand why we are putting a bait trap out. We try to think logically in terms of our comprehension ability. But obviously we would be far behind an alien species in terms of this.

Plus everyone has a conception in their head of what an Alien is. But it's entirely possible that we aren't even in the correct stratosphere of what an "alien" would look like or even be. It could be a life force made out of something we don't know even exists or understands yet. Like trying to explain electricity to a caveman.
Good point... I'd even say they may be here, living among us and we don't even know it.

If I had to choose who I think on here might be one, I'd be giving BB the side eye.
 

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Clearly they just want to silence him, because this will be a miserable failure financially. No one will go there anymore knowing what it now is.
 

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The onion hasn't been funny in about 2 decades.
Geng, since you're here and I don't think I've asked about this, how were they able to force liquidation of his company because of what he said about Sandy Hook in the first place? I'm no expert on the details, but from what I've seen you just file the case in a jurisdiction that hates you, get a sympathetic judge and jury, and there's not much recourse if the appeals court doesn't overturn it.

But no matter what you think, it seems like a total violation of the first amendment for a court to eradicate someone's company and livelihood over what they say on the radio, no matter how dumb.

@Cowboysrock55, chime in also.
 
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