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Genghis Khan

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Is it unfair cherry picking to say Derrick Henry has more yardage on one carry than Ezekiel Elliott all season?

It's not at all unfair.

They could have signed either one. And they chose... poorly.
 

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I was joking before but good lord, how much of a no-brainer was it to sign Henry?

Seriously.

He was not asking for the moon.

And if they decided to make it happen, they could have.
But yet none of those clowns in Dallas will stic a mic or recorder in his face and grill PT Barnum about it. Wouldn’t want to lose a seat at the wine and cheese taster freebies the Jones dole out to keep’em off ole Jers back.
 

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But yet none of those clown in Dallas will grill PT Barnum about it. Wouldn’t want to lose a seat at the wine and cheese taster freebies the Jones dole out to keep’em off ole Jers back.
Overall you're right, but the hosts of his radio show did ask him and he just came back with, "Zeke was in the same draft class as Henry and is comparable." :lol :doh
 

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Overall you're right, but the hosts of his radio show did ask him and he just came back with, "Zeke was in the same draft class as Henry and is comparable." :lol :doh
I’m so jealous of the Commanders….they finally got rid of the toxic idiots that kept that team in purgatory. We will never be so lucky.
 

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But yet none of those clowns in Dallas will stic a mic or recorder in his face and grill PT Barnum about it. Wouldn’t want to lose a seat at the wine and cheese taster freebies the Jones dole out to keep’em off ole Jers back.
Even if they did, so what?

He would just say they couldn’t afford him and continue to insult everyone’s intelligence.
 

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Even if they did, so what?

He would just say they couldn’t afford him and continue to insult everyone’s intelligence.
Probably just to make Jerry squirm a little. He admitted in that SAS interview that the criticism does bother him.
 

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Probably just to make Jerry squirm a little. He admitted in that SAS interview that the criticism does bother him.
Oh, it annoys the hell out of him.

Not enough to make him change, mind you, but that stuff does bother him and you can see how pissy he gets when he keeps getting asked multiple times about the same thing.

It's for this precise reason that I think McCarthy could get away with being defiant with Jerry in his final season because I don't believe Jerry would outright fire him in the middle of the year because he wouldn't want to deal with all of the questioning about why he fired his head coach for basically wanting to be given the autonomy of a head coach.

I wish McCarthy would show some damn self respect and just do whatever the hell he wanted to do this season because he literally has nothing to lose at this point.
 

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Oh, it annoys the hell out of him.

Not enough to make him change, mind you, but that stuff does bother him and you can see how pissy he gets when he keeps getting asked multiple times about the same thing.

It's for this precise reason that I think McCarthy could get away with being defiant with Jerry in his final season because I don't believe Jerry would outright fire him in the middle of the year because he wouldn't want to deal with all of the questioning about why he fired his head coach for basically wanting to be given the autonomy of a head coach.

I wish McCarthy would show some damn self respect and just do whatever the hell he wanted to do this season because he literally has nothing to lose at this point.
You would think he has a set of balls. But he is doing the same shit that drove Rodgers up a wall.
 

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You would think he has a set of balls. But he is doing the same shit that drove Rodgers up a wall.
I don't understand it.

Again, I'd get it if he was some guy lucky to have a job like a Garrett or Dave Campo, or if he was a guy on his first and last multi-million dollar contract but he's not.

He's a solid, successful NFL coach who won a Superbowl with one of the league's premier franchises. Even if he were to get fired this season, I'm sure there would be teams that would still be interested in acquiring his services.

And if they weren't, it would have zero to do with what happened in Dallas because everyone around the league knows how business is conducted in Dallas and I honestly believe they're judged and graded differently because of that.

And then there's the financial aspect of it. He was already doing very well financially BEFORE he got to Dallas so I'm sure he's set for life and then some after adding on what he's made the last 4 years.

When you couple all that with the fact that he's got no money to leave on the table should he be fired because he's in the final year of his deal, it makes no sense to me whatsoever that he isn't standing up for himself and being more defiant.

What a whimp.
 

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It's for this precise reason that I think McCarthy could get away with being defiant with Jerry in his final season because I don't believe Jerry would outright fire him in the middle of the year because he wouldn't want to deal with all of the questioning about why he fired his head coach for basically wanting to be given the autonomy of a head coach.

I wish McCarthy would show some damn self respect and just do whatever the hell he wanted to do this season because he literally has nothing to lose at this point.
I do too, but it seems coaches just aren't wired that way. One, I think they do know they are employees and their job is to coach the team as well as they can, and they try to stick to that. Two, I think he would like to keep this job longer and pissing off the boss is not the way. Three, I'm sure they believe even thinking, "We aren't going to win enough for him to keep me anyway" would feel defeatist to them and isn't the way their minds work.

Saying things to piss off an owner probably wouldn't help his rep around the league, either. I'm sure everyone around the league knows what the story is in Dallas with Jerry and his ego and power anyway.
 

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I do too, but it seems coaches just aren't wired that way. One, I think they do know they are employees and their job is to coach the team as well as they can, and they try to stick to that. Two, I think he would like to keep this job longer and pissing off the boss is not the way. Three, I'm sure they believe even thinking, "We aren't going to win enough for him to keep me anyway" would feel defeatist to them and isn't the way their minds work.

Saying things to piss off an owner probably wouldn't help his rep around the league, either. I'm sure everyone around the league knows what the story is in Dallas with Jerry and his ego and power anyway.

Well said. Throwing hissy fits and being a defiant prick doesn't help himself or the team. I'm sure he's focused on trying to get the best out of this team and nothing else, and that's exactly what he should be doing.
 

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Even if they did, so what?

He would just say they couldn’t afford him and continue to insult everyone’s intelligence.
Chocolate answered this, but I know Jerry isn’t going to change. But I get perverse pleasure watching that POS stammer, get flustered and turn red faced yapping about what a great GM he is when someone in the media holds his wrinkled old ass to the fire. Truth is, he’s a thin skinned fucker who couldn’t GM his grandsons Pee Wee football club.
 
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