President Trump Thread...

[Chocolate Lab]

And for the record, if the R's decided to fight fire with fire and go after somebody like say, Nancy Pelosi (only an example because I can't stand her) I would still hate that they are doing it.

I would too, but not as much as before this. You can only turn the other cheek so many times.

 

[Cotton]

I would too, but not as much as before this. You can only turn the other cheek so many times.

That's exactly right. I'm tired of this bullshit. As much as the Dems like to talk about "destroying democracy", this is what will actually destroy democracy. It's time to fight back.

 

[boozeman]

I know that question isn't for me but I don't get the logic of that. People who are all-in on Trump are already going to vote for him. You can't... vote harder.

I don't think it will hurt him much at all. Think the dems have a false sense of accomplishment that this will somehow sink his odds in the election. But the idea that this will suddenly make millions of people start supporting Trump that didn't already doesn't track for me.

Edit: Only way I see it improving his odds is if that false sense of accomplishment leads to less democrat turnout. Now that I could see happening.

This is my mindset as well.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I see a guy who has thumbed his nose at the law his entire life has finally been held accountable, petty as it may be. I hope they hold Hunter Biden, Bob Menendez, etc accountable too.

They already deemed Joe too mentallu incompetent to be held accountable. Let that sink in.

 

[Thorn]

Maybe he has. But that doesn't make this any more right. What this does is set precedent. Now, if for whatever reason somebody in power deems fit, they can bend the laws to make shit fit just so they can go after somebody. I understand you don't like Trump. That's fine. But you should absolutely HATE that this was able to take place. The entirety of the American public should be outraged over this. But since so many people are so blinded, they allow something like this to happen. Just because of WHO, not because of right or wrong.

And for the record, if the R's decided to fight fire with fire and go after somebody like say, Nancy Pelosi (only an example because I can't stand her) I would still hate that they are doing it.

Am I wrong for thinking that Trump has literally talked about going after political opponents in a similar manner? IE - This was the dems doing the thing Trump has threatened to do many times.

Not saying I agree with any of it and I am by no means a leftist, democrat or anything else.

 

[Thorn]

Honest question for Trump supporters: How do you guys process it when Trump just blatantly lies about something? He just went on Fox and Friends and said that he never personally suggested Hillary or the Bidens should be locked up when his supporters would chant it. Which is just a lie. It's not hard to prove.

Really not trying to start shit, it's just the thing with the Trump support that I don't get. Wondering if I'm missing something. I get that our political system basically forces people to pick red or blue and swallow whatever shit you're fed that's more tolerable. Is it a team thing? He's your option so you just brush it off?

I just feel like Trump doesn't exemplify or believe any of the meaningful conservative principles that he says he does. Dude used to vote for Clinton, he's morally bankrupt, etc.

For clarity I think Biden is a disgusting establishment pawn with legitimate cognitive issues. It's very much a douchebag vs. turd sandwich kinda year to me. Been that way for a hot minute.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Honest question for Trump supporters: How do you guys process it when Trump just blatantly lies about something? He just went on Fox and Friends and said that he never personally suggested Hillary or the Bidens should be locked up when his supporters would chant it. Which is just a lie. It's not hard to prove.

Really not trying to start shit, it's just the thing with the Trump support that I don't get. Wondering if I'm missing something. I get that our political system basically forces people to pick red or blue and swallow whatever shit you're fed that's more tolerable. Is it a team thing? He's your option so you just brush it off?

I just feel like Trump doesn't exemplify or believe any of the meaningful conservative principles that he says he does. Dude used to vote for Clinton, he's morally bankrupt, etc.

For clarity I think Biden is a disgusting establishment pawn with legitimate cognitive issues. It's very much a douchebag vs. turd sandwich kinda year to me. Been that way for a hot minute.

One, all politicians lie. Biden has told hundreds of lies just since he's been in office, and they aren't inconsequential things like about crowd sizes, either.

Two, it's pretty simple: this is a binary choice. Trump is far from perfect, we all know that. But the alternative is far, far worse, as we've seen. I can't fathom not voting just because Trump is distasteful in some ways if it meant that could help put Biden and the hardcore leftists pulling his strings back in power.

 

[Thorn]

One, all politicians lie. Biden has told hundreds of lies just since he's been in office, and they aren't inconsequential things like about crowd sizes, either.

Two, it's pretty simple: this is a binary choice. Trump is far from perfect, we all know that. But the alternative is far, far worse, as we've seen. I can't fathom not voting just because Trump is distasteful in some ways if it meant that could help put Biden and the hardcore leftists pulling his strings back in power.

That's fair. Biden and Trump are the only meaningful options. Kind of what I figured but it seems like some people just can't acknowledge any issues for "their guy" and I find it tiring.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[NoDak]

Am I wrong for thinking that Trump has literally talked about going after political opponents in a similar manner? IE - This was the dems doing the thing Trump has threatened to do many times.

Not saying I agree with any of it and I am by no means a leftist, democrat or anything else.

I honestly don’t know. I’ve been so disgusted with politics the last few years, I rarely pay attention anymore.

I get my political news from Irv right here.

 

[Cujo]

That's fair. Biden and Trump are the only meaningful options. Kind of what I figured but it seems like some people just can't acknowledge any issues for "their guy" and I find it tiring.

Thanks for the reply.

I think everyone here that supports Trump can admit that he has plenty of faults. It's just a little hard to take the criticism when they can't admit their own guy does. Biden gets shielded from a lot of criticism, mostly by the media who run cover for him 24/7. Trump does not have that luxury.

 

[Irving Cowboy]

I get my political news from Irv right here.

You're my boy, Randy!

 

[Irving Cowboy]

They already deemed Joe too mentallu incompetent to be held accountable. Let that sink in.

Yeah it's bullshit.. too old/senile to be held responsible yet competent to be President.

Sort of like too old/senile to put two sentences together or be President yet the mastermind of this plot to put Trump in jail. It comes from all sides.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Sort of like too old/senile to put two sentences together or be President yet the mastermind of this plot to put Trump in jail. It comes from all sides.

Yeah Biden isn't the master mind of anything. I'm willing to bet the guy doesn't have a coherent idea as president that anyone listens to or does. Other people are the ones making the decisions and plotting. Biden is just an inanimate object that they push out there.

I don't disagree with Thorn. I've been saying for awhile we get two choices and both choices suck. Now the primary process and the way we end up with these options I won't pretend to fully understand. So when left with two options, I'm going to pick the guy who ultimately makes my life better and in my opinion the lives of others better. Neither guy is someone you can hold up and be proud of as a human.

Not even a team red verse blue situation right now. Although I do think politics can take on a ridiculous almost sports like quality where people are just a fan of the color or political party and pay no attention to what someone will actually do in office.

 

[Cotton]

 

[Cotton]

Hell yeah.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

"You're gonna see so many red t shirts at that convention, you're gonna think you're in Texas."

 

[Smitty]

I see a guy who has thumbed his nose at the law his entire life has finally been held accountable, petty as it may be. I hope they hold Hunter Biden, Bob Menendez, etc accountable too.

I'm waiting with fucking bells on.

But I bet, amazingly, they never are.

Which means, yes, he was targeted. It's not that he's treated differently than other citizens who get the book thrown at them. It's that he's treated differently than the other scumbag politicians who are in the "correct," party and who are above prosecution for anything themselves.

When we collectively purge all the scumbags then I'm happy to not vote for Trump. The line is a mile long of Democrats first, though.

 

[Smitty]

Am I wrong for thinking that Trump has literally talked about going after political opponents in a similar manner? IE - This was the dems doing the thing Trump has threatened to do many times.

Trump chanting "lock her up," isn't the same. Did he actually try to prosecute Hillary for all her very real crimes while he was in office? Not a single one! If you think Hillary hasn't committed twice the crimes Trump has - many of the very same ones he's charged with - I have a bridge to sell you. She hasn't committed campaign funding violations or mishandled classified information illegally? Fucking nonsense. But his "lock her up," schtick was rhetorical. He didn't act on it. When he says "lock her up," he's not threatening to do it. He's just hyping up his base with "Dems are evil," rhetoric. You know, the same kind of "George Bush is Hitler" crap we've been hearing since the late 90s from the other side?

Trump talks a big talk and does none of it. He's a pro wrestling style bullshit artist. He fucking sent Kim Jong Un a video of the American flag waiving in front of boats and hoes and was like "All this can be yours if you join us!"

He's 99% veneer.

But at the same time he has a genuineness, which is, "Look at all this tough talk and fascade, at least I'm open about it, I'm gonna cut through the fat with my no-nonsense demeanor and get shit done."

So he puts people down, insults them, says wild things... but at the end of the day, he's anti-war, pro-business, pro-helping people. His policies place him as probably the most compassionate Republican since Eisenhower. There's a reason why black voters are coming into his camp like never before. If you are ignoring that because "he said racist things!" then you are missing the forest for the trees.

Trump is basically like if the drunk guy ranting at the bar next to you ran for office. He's your big-talking average Joe, but a millionaire. That kind of non-intellectualism is what appeals to people, and has a bunch of over-the-top brags baked in that AREN'T SUPPOSED TO BE TAKEN AS TRUTHS when stated.

Honest question for Trump supporters: How do you guys process it when Trump just blatantly lies about something? He just went on Fox and Friends and said that he never personally suggested Hillary or the Bidens should be locked up when his supporters would chant it. Which is just a lie. It's not hard to prove.

Really not trying to start shit, it's just the thing with the Trump support that I don't get. Wondering if I'm missing something. I get that our political system basically forces people to pick red or blue and swallow whatever shit you're fed that's more tolerable. Is it a team thing? He's your option so you just brush it off?

I just feel like Trump doesn't exemplify or believe any of the meaningful conservative principles that he says he does. Dude used to vote for Clinton, he's morally bankrupt, etc.

For clarity I think Biden is a disgusting establishment pawn with legitimate cognitive issues. It's very much a douchebag vs. turd sandwich kinda year to me. Been that way for a hot minute.

I was not a Trump supporter originally because he's odious.

He says reprehensible things (on their face). He's the male version of a living barbie doll, he's all plastic. He's entirely about superficial things (money, success, winning, getting deals done). I don't think he has a religious bone in his body.

But the thing is, beneath all the superficiality, he's HONEST. He's honest about his lies in a refreshingly upfront way. Like, yeah, he goes "I never said that," and there's video of him saying it. He was recorded saying "grab 'em by the pussy," because he was a bragging bigshot trying to impress people backstage.

But you know what he's NOT lying about?

Funneling millions of dollars to the military industrial complex by backing wars in Ukraine and Israel. Colluding with foreign powers (which he did absolutely zero of, and conversely, Obama, Hillary and Biden are very, very guilty of). Getting paydays from foreign leaders or corporations. And you know why he's against all that? Because wars are wasteful and make it hard to get deals done. That's what he's all about, so he's against it. He wants to make money, and he's like, the US can make money too if they do it my way! And he's right!

All the bullshit they can pin on him is due to his stupid bragging (like, why the hell won't he shut up when he gets a gag order? Because the idiot thinks he's above it).

He's your average dirty NYC property developer, which is to say, yes, it's standard practice that they ALL (yes, ALL OF THEM) value their real estate the way he did. But he's out in the open about it. He says "Yeah, I did this, everyone did it."

He's not a fucking slimy, sleazy, corrupt politician, which is way, way, way, way worse.

That's what Biden and Hillary are.

 

[Thorn]

Good write up. The dems really didn't do themselves any favors trotting out regurgitated establishment trash every 4 years. I don't think anyone wanted a future Biden presidency in 08 and he was much sharper at that point.

 

[Cotton]