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I don't agree.

I don't either. It's that type of short sightedness that keeps getting us in trouble in the first place.

Especially since Garrett's return assures that next year is a lost cause regardless.
 

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I don't either. It's that type of short sightedness that keeps getting us in trouble in the first place.

Especially since Garrett's return assures that next year is a lost cause regardless.
Depends on what else we do.

Like last year, however, it doesn't look like the direction of the offseason is headed the right way in regards to the staff or likely personnel moves.
 

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You could easily go OL again, I'd consider a WR if it was a dominant enough player, and I think we'd all be fine with a QB.
On what planet would you easily go OL in the 1st on this team?

The OL was the best unit on the team by the end of the year why would you invest a 1st when you have so many glaring needs on defense, I am all for trying to upgrade the guard spots and adding depth but there is no way in hell I am using a 1st or a 2nd.

But pleases explain to me why you would easily draft OL in the 1st.
 

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On what planet would you easily go OL in the 1st on this team?

The OL was the best unit on the team by the end of the year why would you invest a 1st when you have so many glaring needs on defense, I am all for trying to upgrade the guard spots and adding depth but there is no way in hell I am using a 1st or a 2nd.

But pleases explain to me why you would easily draft OL in the 1st.
Depth.
 

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:zzz

This team could plug in a dominant RT and still see a huge improvement up front. Same goes for a guard, though I don't know that I see one in the first round this year.
 

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On what planet would you easily go OL in the 1st on this team?

The OL was the best unit on the team by the end of the year why would you invest a 1st when you have so many glaring needs on defense, I am all for trying to upgrade the guard spots and adding depth but there is no way in hell I am using a 1st or a 2nd.

But pleases explain to me why you would easily draft OL in the 1st.
I could live with getting a dominant guard or right tackle in the late teens
 

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So the feeling is that we're definitely getting a new DC?

Cause last I heard officially was that Kiffin wasn't being forced into retirement.
He isn't "retiring". He is taking a position as a "defensive consultant" and leaving the defense in Marinelli's hands. - or whatever else BS face saving excuse Jerry can come up with.
 

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I could live with getting a dominant guard or right tackle in the late teens
Not only would we "live" with it.... other than taking a DT, DE, or QB, it's probably the best thing we could do for the team.
 

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Not only would we "live" with it.... other than taking a DT, DE, or QB, it's probably the best thing we could do for the team.
I think historically you do not increase your odds of success by very much when you use a 1st round pick on a non-LT OL. That's all I meant by 'live with.' A dominant OL will cover up a lot of deficiencies.
 

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Not only would we "live" with it.... other than taking a DT, DE, or QB, it's probably the best thing we could do for the team.
I'd add safety to that.

So tired of the pathetic shit we've had back there for far too long.
 

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The amazing thing is I think that Frederick tailed off a little at the end of the year and we still ended up having an OL that was night and day from last year's, simply due to the fact that there was no Phil Costa starting.
 

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We could definitely use another RT and I would definitely draft one in the first if he was good enough.

I'd rather have a good/great RT than a mediocre/bust DT.

Yes I know we wouldn't or necessarily be drafting a bust just because we draft a RT, just merely pointing out that eliminating positions because they aren't "need" positions or targeting need positions causes some players to move up your board that don't deserve to be there.

And yes the offensive line is pretty good right now, but wouldn't it be nice to have a dominant line again? We'd finally have an identity.
 

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We could definitely use another RT and I would definitely draft one in the first if he was good enough.

I'd rather have a good/great RT than a mediocre/bust DT.

Yes I know we wouldn't or necessarily be drafting a bust just because we draft a RT, just merely pointing out that eliminating positions because they aren't "need" positions or targeting need positions causes some players to move up your board that don't deserve to be there.

And yes the offensive line is pretty good right now, but wouldn't it be nice to have a dominant line again? We'd finally have an identity.
You never know when Doug Free will fall back off. The dude had a great season compared to where he was at the prior season. There is no guarantee he won't return to the bad player that he was.
 

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If a RT or OG was the BPA I'd definitely take them, we could have the makings of a special line with Smith, Frederick and one more stud OL.
 

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If a RT or OG was the BPA I'd definitely take them, we could have the makings of a special line with Smith, Frederick and one more stud OL.
The only problem is we still wouldn't run the ball and Romo still wouldn't be able to sit in the pocket and pick defenses apart. We'd have a better line with similar results. Of course you can't build an O-line assuming you have those limitations.
 

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The only problem is we still wouldn't run the ball and Romo still wouldn't be able to sit in the pocket and pick defenses apart. We'd have a better line with similar results. Of course you can't build an O-line assuming you have those limitations.
Yea well Garrett and Romo will be gone within 2-3 years which is when our OL would just be starting to enter their prime.
 

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I think historically you do not increase your odds of success by very much when you use a 1st round pick on a non-LT OL. That's all I meant by 'live with.' A dominant OL will cover up a lot of deficiencies.
Tell that to the Steelers, Ravens and Pats (especially Steelers). Pouncey, Faneca, Simmons, Mankins, Grubbs, all played a significant part of Super Bowl teams. I'd also put forward Iupati and Davis of the 9ers as a big part of the great line that helped carry them to the Super Bowl, even though they lost.
 

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I just want smart drafting.

Get us some talent in here, and don't spend picks unless you're getting a QB.
 
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