2023 Season | Week 5 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys @ 49ers | 10/8/2023

[ravidubey]

Here is the sad reality: we are as good a defense as Philly and SF, but our offense is woefully behind theirs. Each of them have elite running games led by better backs than we have, and each of them have TWO high end CD Lamb caliber WRs instead of one, and each of them have an elite TE. Finally, they each have non elite but competent QBs capable of racking up yards and points. Ours can no longer push the ball downfield (not that he ever was really able to do this consistently).

And the even more sad thing is at some point those ‘non-elite’ QB’s are going to keep improving and actually become elite.

Purdy is proof that the QB position is 90% mental— deep covered, next three options, buy time, dump/ditch the ball, coach will have the next play. He reminds me of Dak his rookie year, trust in the talent around you and that the coaches know what they are doing. Except Purdy can also drill accurate passes all over the field on a rope. For all intents and purposes, he is elite.

Dak’s lost a lot of that trust and belief in the talent and coaching around him, and unfortunately does not bring any next-level talent to compensate. So if that’s true, then why pay him so much?

Seriously.

Also, he's playing interior some now so...

Also also, if he thinks the interior run defense is the only problem and teams aren't also beating us on the edge he's pretty mistaken.

The 49ers insane off-ball LBs show what we lack in physicality. Speed is not enough if you lack the power to shrug off blocks or to stuff tough running backs

 

[Foobio]

He tweeted this after the game was over. I knew he wouldn't let us down.

Also, “Pollard is better than CMC”

I wonder if he feels like walking that one back a little. Probably not.

 

[bbgun]

the good news? we solved our red zone woes. by not getting in the red zone.

 

[UncleMilti]

Because I felt like most of what happened while the game was still competitive was correctable, and that they actually stood up and made some stops in critical situations but the offense did absolutely nothing to help them out. The run defense was also pretty solid while the game was competitive, Deebo had like 2-3 solid runs but McCarthy was mostly under wraps.

A lot of the issues early on were penalties, giving up the trick play, allowing a screen to pop on 2nd and 12 and so forth, those are things that can be corrected and/or aren't systemic.

The only drive that really pissed me off was the opening drive of the 2nd half when it was 21-10 and they gave up a 3rd and 12 conversion, although on that drive Purdy was just locked in and making some ridiculous throws after not being forced to do much in the first half because they could afford to play at their pace and rhythm without being forced into high leverage situations.

Like yea, they gave up some plays obviously but the dam is always going to break when your offense is going 3 and out 85% of the time.

Easy to sit back and throw lobs over the middle when there’s zero pressure on you.
Micah was MIA. It’s been discussed for years…There’s no bookend players to get pressure. It’s pretty much #11 and no one else. DE or pressure player doesn’t need to be another Charles Haley but Micah needs help. We don’t have any studs along the DL outside of Micha. No studs at LB. Our one stud at CB is out. Against great teams, they are JAG.

And like they called it last night…Because we can’t beat really good OL’s one on one Quinn is looping and crossing his DL to try and get pressure which creates huge running lanes. And SF exploited it to a T.

An ass kicking for the ages.

 

[UncleMilti]

And the even more sad thing is at some point those ‘non-elite’ QB’s are going to keep improving and actually become elite.

Purdy is proof that the QB position is 90% mental— deep covered, next three options, buy time, dump/ditch the ball, coach will have the next play. He reminds me of Dak his rookie year, trust in the talent around you and that the coaches know what they are doing. Except Purdy can also drill accurate passes all over the field on a rope. For all intents and purposes, he is elite.

Dak’s lost a lot of that trust and belief in the talent and coaching around him, and unfortunately does not bring any next-level talent to compensate. So if that’s true, then why pay him so much?



The 49ers insane off-ball LBs show what we lack in physicality. Speed is not enough if you lack the power to shrug off blocks or to stuff tough running backs

And it also shows that real GMs and talented coaches can find QBs in other rounds outside the first. Sure, it’s rare you find a Purdy late in the draft but those guys are there more now than ever with the way the college game has evolved. But not Jerry …. He’ll hang on to Dak another 4-5 years cause he’s “gonna show’em” ~lipsmack~

 

[Bill Shatner]

Would it be too much to ask for Jerry to be caught with some 18 year old male prostitutes on his big assed boat?

 

[Rev]

And it also shows that real GMs and talented coaches can find QBs in other rounds outside the first. Sure, it’s rare you find a Purdy late in the draft but those guys are there more now than ever with the way the college game has evolved. But not Jerry …. He’ll hang on to Dak another 4-5 years cause he’s “gonna show’em” ~lipsmack~

If Jimmy gets 25+ years and no RoH then how long does Dak get?

 

[boozeman]

Purdy is proof that the QB position is 90% mental— deep covered, next three options, buy time, dump/ditch the ball, coach will have the next play.

Purdy is proof a QB can be wildly successful with a dynamic system designed to get playmakers into space for easy open throws.

Name the last time you had to see Purdy make a high percentage throw and just nail it? He isn't put into those positions.

 

[p1_]

poor guy. he could've played for a winner.

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He did. He’s in the right place.

 

[p1_]

Purdy is proof a QB can be wildly successful with a dynamic system designed to get playmakers into space for easy open throws.

Name the last time you had to see Purdy make a high percentage throw and just nail it? He isn't put into those positions.

You would think he was Joe Montana and Steve Young all in one the way some are gobbling his knob .

 

[Simpleton]

Purdy is proof a QB can be wildly successful with a dynamic system designed to get playmakers into space for easy open throws.

Name the last time you had to see Purdy make a high percentage throw and just nail it? He isn't put into those positions.

Yea Shannahan was a strange defensive collapse away from winning a Super Bowl with Garoppolo as his QB, against Mahomes no less. Purdy has some nice attributes but on almost any other team nobody would ever know his name.

For as much as people shit on Dak you could drop him into SF tomorrow and they wouldn't miss a beat.

 

[bbgun]

 

[boozeman]

 

[Simpleton]

As it's been the last three meetings.

 

[boozeman]

 

[Genghis Khan]

I don't know, some of that was a poor decision from the RB. The second run for example had some room to the outside with tyron out in front but for some inexplicable reason he cut in.

 

[Texas Ace]

For as much as people shit on Dak you could drop him into SF tomorrow and they wouldn't miss a beat.

Bullshit.

 

[Genghis Khan]

PFF is trash. Some of their rankings of certain players last night were laughable.

 

[Genghis Khan]

By the way I could swear Bland was beaten at least once last night.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Bullshit.

Yeah that's a specious statement to say that SF wouldn't miss a beat with Dak.

SF looks on another level with Purdy compared to Lance or Garropolo, so you can't just drop any QB in there and it's the same. We've already seen otherwise.