The Outrage Thread

[boozeman]

I wish we had a "narrative" about our homeless vets. Shit might actually get fixed.

The real narrative is that nobody gives enough of a shit. It is disgusting that a vet who loses a limb fighting a war that really is just about politics has to turn to a charity to get aid. For a country that has had only small chunk of its history in peacetime, you would hope there was something the government would do. But they don't. And the average person isn't exactly motivated in a big way either. It is just something patriotic to hang onto.

 

[NoDak]

I agree for the most part. If Jack wants to be Jill, fine. I have no problem with that. But the problem arises when Jack is also telling little Jimmy that he should be little Julie.

 

[Cotton]

The real narrative is that nobody gives enough of a shit. It is disgusting that a vet who loses a limb fighting a war that really is just about politics has to turn to a charity to get aid. For a country that has had only small chunk of its history in peacetime, you would hope there was something the government would do. But they don't. And the average person isn't exactly motivated in a big way either. It is just something patriotic to hang onto.

For the most part, I actually agree with this.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Yeah, this is more complicated that wearing overalls vs wearing a dress. It's about schools and culture pushing young kids into making permanently life-altering decisions before they're capable of doing so. Way before.

Most of us think this is bigger than the trans movement anyway. Schools and the media shouldn't be sexualizing kids in any direction. Just let them have their innocence, for God's sake. Why is that so much to ask? But it is.

 

[Cotton]

I agree for the most part. If Jack wants to be Jill, fine. I have no problem with that. But the problem arises when Jack is also telling little Jimmy that he should be little Julie.

Or, forcing me to accept it as normal sane behavior. Because it's not.

 

[boozeman]

It's a uniparty when it comes to immigration. GOP donors want cheap labor, and Dems want future voters. That's why nothing's done about the border.

Yeah, anybody saying otherwise really needs a dose of perspective.

Having a completely closed border or even highly policed one would cripple the industries that knowingly employ illegals from the plains to the ocean.

There would be no cheap labor to work in the meat packing plants and farms that ultimately feed our broken food system.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Goddamn, booze is the most cynical person I've ever seen.

 

[boozeman]

I agree for the most part. If Jack wants to be Jill, fine. I have no problem with that. But the problem arises when Jack is also telling little Jimmy that he should be little Julie.

I believe the issue is not Jack telling little Jimmy anything. It is more like the fucked up parent /influencer of Jimmy telling him that he should aspire to be Jack that becomes Jill.

 

[Cotton]

I believe the issue is not Jack telling little Jimmy anything. It is more like the fucked up parent /influencer of Jimmy telling him that he should aspire to be Jack that becomes Jill.

Same damn difference.

 

[NoDak]

I believe the issue is not Jack telling little Jimmy anything. It is more like the fucked up parent /influencer of Jimmy telling him that he should aspire to be Jack that becomes Jill.

It’s both. So yeah, it’s an issue.

 

[boozeman]

Goddamn, booze is the most cynical person I've ever seen.

Travel about the world or even just the country. Work exclusively with people for most of your career.

That shit will jade you fast. I used to think that people were motivated by things other than self-interest and were generally sincere.

Then I grew up as I understood the percentage was lower than I thought. Way lower.

 

[boozeman]

Same damn difference.

Not really. For the most part, most Jacks that wanted to be Jills never had the opportunity to call attention to themselves without the fear of getting their asses kicked. Now it is more "acceptable" or frowned upon to be offended at the behavior, it is not the same.

 

[Cotton]

Travel about the world or even just the country. Work exclusively with people for most of your career.

That shit will jade you fast. I used to think that people were motivated by things other than self-interest and were generally sincere.

Then I grew up as I understood the percentage was lower than I thought. Way lower.

Ya know, I hate people too. I have been jaded by idiocy throughout my life. But, you definitely are next level.

 

[boozeman]

Ya know, I hate people too. I have been jaded by idiocy throughout my life. But, you definitely are next level.

Thanks, I appreciate the compliment.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Travel about the world or even just the country. Work exclusively with people for most of your career.

That shit will jade you fast. I used to think that people were motivated by things other than self-interest and were generally sincere.

Then I grew up as I understood the percentage was lower than I thought. Way lower.

Nobody else has ever travelled or worked with people?

I get that most humans are less than we'd all like, but damn, not every person and institution is corrupt and broken beyond repair.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Not really. For the most part, most Jacks that wanted to be Jills never had the opportunity to call attention to themselves without the fear of getting their asses kicked. Now it is more "acceptable" or frowned upon to be offended at the behavior, it is not the same.

I find this argument to be total bullshit. People always wanted to cut off the sexual organs? Kids always "knew" at single digit ages that they were the other sex? It's just that now it's okay? Naw.

 

[boozeman]

Nobody else has ever travelled or worked with people?

I get that most humans are less than we'd all like, but damn, not every person and institution is corrupt and broken beyond repair.

Unfortunately they kind of are. At the very least they are an overwhelming majority that would astound a lot of folks.

 

[boozeman]

I find this argument to be total bullshit. People always wanted to cut off the sexual organs? Kids always "knew" at single digit ages that they were the other sex? It's just that now it's okay? Naw.

I was referring to the Trans thing overall, not this sickness that has children involved with it.

 

[Cotton]

I was referring to the Trans thing overall, not this sickness that has children involved with it.

The entire trans thing is a sickness. It just gets infuriating when the involve children in their psychotic world.

 

[Smitty]

Is being transgender a mental disorder?

A psychological state is considered a mental disorder only if it causes significant distress or disability. Many transgender people do not experience their gender as distressing or disabling, which implies that identifying as transgender does not constitute a mental disorder. For these individuals, the significant problem is finding affordable resources, such as counseling, hormone therapy, medical procedures and the social support necessary to freely express their gender identity and minimize discrimination. Many other obstacles may lead to distress, including a lack of acceptance within society, direct or indirect experiences with discrimination, or assault. These experiences may lead many transgender people to suffer with anxiety, depression or related disorders at higher rates than nontransgender persons.

According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), people who experience intense, persistent gender incongruence can be given the diagnosis of "gender dysphoria." Some contend that the diagnosis inappropriately pathologizes gender noncongruence and should be eliminated. Others argue that it is essential to retain the diagnosis to ensure access to care. The International Classification of Diseases (ICD) is under revision and there may be changes to its current classification of intense persistent gender incongruence as "gender identity disorder."

Answers to your questions about transgender people, gender identity, and gender expression

Transgender is an umbrella term used to describe people whose gender identity (sense of themselves as male or female) or gender expression differs from socially constructed norms associated with their birth sex. This includes androgynous, bigendered and gender queer people, who tend to see...

www.apa.org

Literally from the APA website. So while you answered the question why you think it's a mental disorder, the mental health community does not agree. As I said, mental disorders can be related to trans based on symptoms they have because of the various factors surrounding their situation, but being trans itself is not the mental disorder.

I literally addressed everything in this post already. I’m aware they don’t classify as such; because of politics.

What they are talking about is the same thing as gender dysphoria though.