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Prodigal_Son

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People who think they're Napoleon: do we indulge their illusions or do we get them help? We get them help.

But that's different!

No, it really isn't.
Transgender and delusions are not the same thing. Wouldn't expect many of you to agree, but it isn't.
 

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It's actually not. But since some of you are incapable of understanding what I've been saying I had to create a more drastic analogy.
Yeah, we're just too stupid to understand your idiocy.
 

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Who the hell is having drag shows in school?
Teachers with pride flags in their classroom.

It’s weird that people who advocate for this shit always claim it’s not even happening. Then a person can show them instances of it happening and then it becomes “it’s not happening enough to worry about.”.

If you’re going to be accepting and understanding of trans people and the shit they advocate for, you should probably pay attention to what they’re doing so you can know what you’re encouraging.
 

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If you’re going to be accepting and understanding of trans people and the shit they advocate for, you should probably pay attention to what they’re doing so you can know what you’re encouraging.
1 million %
 

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Transgender and delusions are not the same thing. Wouldn't expect many of you to agree, but it isn't.
Nonsense. Male/female sex differences are a biological fact, not a state of mind. Just because you think you're something doesn't make it so.
 

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How many more examples do you need? Get your fucking head out of the sand.
 

shane

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Teachers with pride flags in their classroom.

It’s weird that people who advocate for this shit always claim it’s not even happening. Then a person can show them instances of it happening and then it becomes “it’s not happening enough to worry about.”.

If you’re going to be accepting and understanding of trans people and the shit they advocate for, you should probably pay attention to what they’re doing so you can know what you’re encouraging.
I think the people apologizing for this evil shit are closet pedos.

Or they're useful idiot cowardly enablers for the pedos.

Practically speaking, there is no difference.
 

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Which ones are wrong. List them here so we can reference them.
Well let's start with his ridiculous assertion that Jan 6 wasn't a riot "by any metric". Hundreds of hours of footage prove otherwise. It would be like me posting a picture of the girl offering a line of policemen a pepsi as proof that there were no riots in the summer of 2020.

Then we can move on to his diatribes that somehow show that he is some sort of expert in psychology/physiology when it comes to how/why/what people feel.
 

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I think the people apologizing for this evil shit are closet pedos.

Or they're useful idiot cowardly enablers for the pedos.

Practically speaking, there is no difference.
I really believe inside of 10 years you’ll start to see a massive explosion from these now kids against those in society who cheered this crap on.

It’s going to be awful hard for people to hide from the receipts. I truly believe they will be looked at as child predators and I think that is well deserved.

If a person thinks it’s perfectly normal to sterilize a child, removing all chance at leading a normal life and ability to reproduce as an adult, you probably should be on some sort of national registry and not allowed with 100 yards of a school or Chuck-E-Cheese.
 

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Well let's start with his ridiculous assertion that Jan 6 wasn't a riot "by any metric". Hundreds of hours of footage prove otherwise. It would be like me posting a picture of the girl offering a line of policemen a pepsi as proof that there were no riots in the summer of 2020.
I agree with him. When categorizing riots i do not see Jan 6th as a riot. It was a protest.

Then we can move on to his diatribes that somehow show that he is some sort of expert in psychology/physiology when it comes to how/why/what people feel.
He has been eating your's and Prodigal son's lunch in this thread.
 

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And just for the record, you will NOT find me advocating for people to mutilate or coerce children to change anything. Don't put me in that crowd.
 

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And just for the record, you will NOT find me advocating for people to mutilate or coerce children to change anything. Don't put me in that crowd.
You sound like one of those crazy people who want to own an AR-15 but also claim they aren’t pro school shootings.
 

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It's the stated purpose mental health authorities to "destigmatize" transgenderism like was done with homosexuality.

The problem is that the two are really nothing alike.
They're not apples to apples, no, but it's hard to believe that it's just a coincidence that the push for acceptance of trans crap began right close to the same time the Obergefell ruling came down from SCOTUS.
I know it's not a popular viewpoint, even among conservatives, but I believe we're seeing the effects of the slippery slope.
 

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"per se evidence of unease" and distress are different. Someone can feel uneasy about their looks/identity and not be in distress. Stop trying to generalize the whole community.
You are talking about degree of the same basic sensation or perception. The afflicted can articulate a difference in their mind between how they feel, or, in other words, "what they know is their gender identity," vs their biological sex, and they have a strong enough negative emotional response to warrant taking action to do something about it (whether that is actual treatment or just seeking affirmation from support structures or just saying you are going to wear a dress and be happy). The flip side of this coin is those who report no negative emotional response to abiding by their biological sex, but feeling an increased POSITIVE emotional response from adopting a new gender identity. This is the same thing, basically.

Both of these are the brain giving feedback - either outright negative feedback to reality, or positive feedback to fantasy.

Let's try a different scenario. Say you were raped as a kid. If you experienced no long lasting negative effects from it, would you be classified as mentally ill? No, you would be a rape victim.
But a rape victim can point to something external that factually occurred to them.

No one is trans without having a brain that doesn't match their biological reality.

Whether they are heavily suffering "distress," or "unease" or merely driven to select a different identity, the fact that they are choosing an identity that is different than their biological sex is per se evidence of their unease with their biology, ie, their reality.

Now lets say you have all kinds of symptoms related to that trauma. We don't label you as mentally ill because you were raped. You have the label because you have PTSD based on the symptoms associated with the event. That is the same with trans and gender dysphoria. It's the symptoms related to the feeling of being in the wrong body that create the mental illness, not the thought of being in the wrong body itself.
Yes but again, the impetus to identify as trans only occurs with the dysphoria or disconnection from reality that one feels to begin with, not as a result of something that happened to them in nature.
 

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Oh, and Irv is no Republican or conservative. That's simply not true.
 
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