Epstein: Are Cowboys’ Really All-In?

p1_ · Apr 17, 2024

when Connor Livesay gets a press pass. IOW, never.

p1_ · May 19, 2024

Bill Shatner · May 19, 2024

p1_ said:

While I would love for this to be true, I doubt it.

Cotton · May 19, 2024

p1_ said:

Apathy is exactly how I would describe my mentality about the Cowboys right now.

Chocolate Lab · May 19, 2024

Feh. Say the Mavs lose next series, will the city still be that fired up about them enough to ignore the Cowboys?

And hockey isn't a big enough sport to move the NFL aside.

Besides, Jerry wouldn't care if the Cowboys were third in town as long as they were #1 nationally. Forbes list, bitches.

Bill Shatner · May 19, 2024

Chocolate Lab said:
Feh. Say the Mavs lose next series, will the city still be that fired up about them enough to ignore the Cowboys?

And hockey isn't a big enough sport to move the NFL aside.

Besides, Jerry wouldn't care if the Cowboys were third in town as long as they were #1 nationally. Forbes list, bitches.

Yep, as long as the Cowboys are bringing in enough money to subsidize Blue Star Industries, all is well.

p1_ · May 19, 2024

Bill Shatner said:
Yep, as long as the Cowboys are bringing in enough money to subsidize Blue Star Industries, all is well.

Aka BSI. BullShit Inc.

P_T · May 19, 2024

boozeman said:

Kind of a simple/easy answer to this specific question: the Eagles' single biggest 2024 cap hit, $16M... the Cowboys, $55M.

Genghis Khan · May 19, 2024

P_T said:
Kind of a simple/easy answer to this specific question: the Eagles' single biggest 2024 cap hit, $16M... the Cowboys, $55M.

I mean that's from massaging the cap numbers though. It's not like they don't have players with contracts that average much more than that. They're in the same boat but they actually have a captain that knows how to steer.

Hurts has a contract that averages $51m per year. His cap hit this year though is $13m, and he doesn't have a cap hit even close to his average salary of $51m until 2027 when it escalates to gasp $41m. It only gets crazy in 2029 ($97m) when God only knows what the overall cap will be and they'll likely be able to figure it out at that point.

AJ Brown same thing. His average salary is $32m per year. His cap hit this year though is $11m. His cap hit doesn't come close to his average salary until 2029 at $29m, then peaks in 2030 at $53m, at which point again who knows what the overall cap will be, but we're talking about 5-6 years into the future so they have a lot of time to figure things out. And those salaries even as they are will probably be a lower cap percentage than you'd think.

They don't have cheaper players or less top salaries to pay, they just don't mind paying it and are willing to spend what it takes and push the tax bill into the future when the cap is bigger.

We could do all this too if we weren't cheap assholes that don't want to spend money.

I guess no one told the eagles about The Pie.

NoDak · May 19, 2024

Never thought I’d see the days of Geng praising the eagles.

:faint

P_T · May 19, 2024

Genghis Khan said:
I mean that's from massaging the cap numbers though. It's not like they don't have players with contracts that average much more than that. They're in the same boat but they actually have a captain that knows how to steer.

Hurts has a contract that averages $51m per year. His cap hit this year though is $13m, and he doesn't have a cap hit even close to his average salary of $51m until 2027 when it escalates to gasp $41m. It only gets crazy in 2029 ($97m) when God only knows what the overall cap will be and they'll likely be able to figure it out at that point.

AJ Brown same thing. His average salary is $32m per year. His cap hit this year though is $11m. His cap hit doesn't come close to his average salary until 2029 at $29m, then peaks in 2030 at $53m, at which point again who knows what the overall cap will be, but we're talking about 5-6 years into the future so they have a lot of time to figure things out. And those salaries even as they are will probably be a lower cap percentage than you'd think.

They don't have cheaper players or less top salaries to pay, they just don't mind paying it and are willing to spend what it takes and push the tax bill into the future when the cap is bigger.

We could do all this too if we weren't cheap assholes that don't want to spend money.

I guess no one told the eagles about The Pie.

That's why I specified "2024 cap hit"...

Cowboys:

2024 Dallas Cowboys Cap Table

The Dallas Cowboys 2024 salary cap table, including team cap space, dead cap figures, and complete breakdowns of player cap hits, salaries, and bonuses.

www.spotrac.com

Eagles:

2024 Philadelphia Eagles Cap Table

The Philadelphia Eagles 2024 salary cap table, including team cap space, dead cap figures, and complete breakdowns of player cap hits, salaries, and bonuses.

www.spotrac.com

Genghis Khan · May 19, 2024

P_T said:
That's why I specified "2024 cap hit"...

Cowboys:

2024 Dallas Cowboys Cap Table

The Dallas Cowboys 2024 salary cap table, including team cap space, dead cap figures, and complete breakdowns of player cap hits, salaries, and bonuses.

www.spotrac.com

Eagles:

2024 Philadelphia Eagles Cap Table

The Philadelphia Eagles 2024 salary cap table, including team cap space, dead cap figures, and complete breakdowns of player cap hits, salaries, and bonuses.

www.spotrac.com

But my point is, we could do that too, but refuse to. The eagles aren't able to afford all those guys due to not paying them, but rather they are pushing the bill into the future.

And it's really frustrating because if we did, we could raise our championship chances quite a bit.

SaveAHorseRideACowboy · May 20, 2024

Chocolate Lab said:
Feh. Say the Mavs lose next series, will the city still be that fired up about them enough to ignore the Cowboys?

And hockey isn't a big enough sport to move the NFL aside.

Besides, Jerry wouldn't care if the Cowboys were third in town as long as they were #1 nationally. Forbes list, bitches.

and we all know this to be reality… nobody is going to boycott the Cowboys …the only way to “ make a statement “ is to “ hit em where it hurts “ …Cowboys fan are way too loyal to make this a reality ….Even though it makes us all sick , tired and frustrated etc..we are all gonna wake are happy asses up on Sunday and tune into the next Jeckyl and Hyde episode which stars the Dallas Cowboys ….

mcnuttz · May 20, 2024

SaveAHorseRideACowboy said:
and we all know this to be reality… nobody is going to boycott the Cowboys …the only way to “ make a statement “ is to “ hit em where it hurts “ …Cowboys fan are way too loyal to make this a reality ….Even though it makes us all sick , tired and frustrated etc..we are all gonna wake are happy asses up on Sunday and tune into the next Jeckyl and Hyde episode which stars the Dallas Cowboys ….

But we don't have to buy draft hats or new jerseys every season.

It'd be great to see AT&T stadium half empty for a game.

boozeman · May 20, 2024

mcnuttz said:
But we don't have to buy draft hats or new jerseys every season.

It'd be great to see AT&T stadium half empty for a game.

Nah. They would just sell them to the other team’s fans. Win win for Jerry Jones.

SaveAHorseRideACowboy · May 21, 2024

mcnuttz said:
But we don't have to buy draft hats or new jerseys every season.

It'd be great to see AT&T stadium half empty for a game.

Oh yeah … I refuse to go to the stadium until I see something different.. I’ve got a my son who’s become a cowboys fan and I’m dying to take him to a home game and it’s killing me ..I mean I could take him to any other division rival game around by me. The other teams stadiums aren’t far away .. Washington being the furthest at 4 1/2 hours but it’s different when it’s home.

mcnuttz · May 21, 2024

SaveAHorseRideACowboy said:
Oh yeah … I refuse to go to the stadium until I see something different.. I’ve got a my son who’s become a cowboys fan and I’m dying to take him to a home game and it’s killing me ..I mean I could take him to any other division rival game around by me. The other teams stadiums aren’t far away .. Washington being the furthest at 4 1/2 hours but it’s different when it’s home.

My brother and I have been wanting to take our kids for years.

They'll be grown ass men before we make it out there.

Cotton · May 21, 2024

mcnuttz said:
My brother and I have been wanting to take our kids for years.

They'll be grown ass men before we make it out there.

I appreciate your diligence. Seriously.

mcnuttz · May 21, 2024

Cotton said:
I appreciate your diligence. Seriously.

I've been to games, just not in Dallas.

So he's prolly getting my money in some form.

mcnuttz · May 21, 2024

I've bought jerseys, posters, and rookie cards on eBay second-hand, but i don't buy shit from the Cowboys Pro Shop.

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