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The first boat on Sept 2 where they went back and hit them again had eleven people onboard. ELEVEN. Does that sound like a drug running operation?

The fact that they have killed over 80 people they CLAIM are running drugs to the US in the equivalent of a fishing boat incapable of traveling more than 200 miles doesn't bother you? That was what they claimed at first. Then they floated the theory that they were running them to the Caribbean to be offloaded and sent to ISIS or the Taliban to sell to fund terrorism. :lol Their stories keep changing and get more & more ridiculous, but some people just buy off on them no matter what.

Fact is, you or I don't know wtf those boats are up to. This is just two tough guys flexing and challenging anyone to stop them.
This is the 20th boat they have eliminated. I guess all 20 were out just having a nice day on the ocean with the family. 200 miles from any shoreline. Makes perfect sense.
 

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You are so willing to believe anything that shit show puts out.

I have one question... if they are telling the truth, why does 1) their story keep changing or 2) they are not telling you what they say they know about these people?

Unreal.
 

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So you really think they're just blowing up random boats?

And what do you expect them to do, hold a public trial before they eliminate these assholes?

I guess he missed the bales of cocaine floating in the ocean after the boats exploded. Moreover, what fisherman has 4 outboard motors on his boat?
 

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You are so willing to believe anything that shit show puts out.

I have one question... if they are telling the truth, why does 1) their story keep changing or 2) they are not telling you what they say they know about these people?

Unreal.
Have they or have they not already blown up 20 boats?
 

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I can't say they are or aren't, but they claim that they know everything about the people on the boats, even down to where they live. Why not put it out?

What do you think if Mexico or Cuba started blowing up boats off our coast and accusing them of malfeasance?

If they were running drugs to Cuba or Mexico, I’d say they’d be well within their rights.
 

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I can't say they are or aren't, but they claim that they know everything about the people on the boats, even down to where they live. Why not put it out?

What do you think if Mexico or Cuba started blowing up boats off our coast and accusing them of malfeasance?
BTW, this is the dumbest strawman argument I think I have ever seen.
 

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I guess he missed the bales of cocaine floating in the ocean after the boats exploded. Moreover, what fisherman has 4 outboard motors on his boat?
Those were white flotation devices to be donated to underprivileged US child swimmers.

Trump is a true monster.
 

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please tell me when Venezuela became this mass exporter of cocaine to the US or go rethink your argument. If anything you would think we’d be blowing up boats from Colombia.
 

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please tell me when Venezuela became this mass exporter of cocaine to the US or go rethink your argument. If anything you would think we’d be blowing up boats from Colombia.
You ever heard of Tren de Aragua, also known as one of the largest drug and human trafficking organizations in the western hemisphere? Guess where those motherfuckers come from? Also, guess where Mexico gets the vast majority of its cocaine? It's not Columbia.

Man, I said I would never watch the main stream media again, but yet here I am watching Irv cosplay as Jim Acosta. It's sad to be honest.
 

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I can't say they are or aren't, but they claim that they know everything about the people on the boats, even down to where they live. Why not put it out?

Probably because they are afraid of revealing how they’re acquiring their intelligence. Or actually for a multitude of other reasons. Just providing the general public with military intelligence (especially this public) might cause them to interpret it in a number of negative ways.
It’s funny because no other president would have to put up with this kind of scrutiny. Where else in the world would, basically half the population, be up their own asses about us taking out drug traffickers.
 

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Per Grok:

Where does Mexico get the majority of its cocaine?

Mexico obtains the majority of its cocaine supply from Colombia, the world's largest producer of coca (the raw plant material for cocaine). According to U.S. Department of Justice and UNODC estimates, approximately 90% of cocaine entering Mexico originates from Colombia, with the remainder from Peru and Bolivia. Mexico does not produce cocaine domestically, as it lacks significant coca cultivation; instead, it serves as a key transit hub where Colombian cartels ship the drug via Pacific maritime routes (about 70% of flows), overland through Central America, or air drops. Mexican cartels, such as the Sinaloa and Jalisco New Generation, then control processing, storage, and onward trafficking—primarily to the United States.This supply chain has been stable for decades, though enforcement pressures (e.g., U.S.-backed Plan Colombia) have occasionally shifted minor routes toward Peru or Bolivia. Recent 2025 data from U.S. Customs and Border Protection seizures confirm Colombia's dominance, with over 90% of intercepted cocaine tracing back there.


Mexico doesn't get cocaine from Venezuela?

No, Mexico does not receive a significant amount of its cocaine supply from Venezuela. While Venezuela serves as a transit hub for cocaine—primarily Colombian-sourced—that's funneled toward Europe, the Caribbean, or indirect routes to the U.S., the vast majority of cocaine entering Mexico (and subsequently trafficked to the U.S.) originates directly from Colombia via Pacific maritime routes or Central America. U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) estimates indicate that about 90% of cocaine reaching the U.S. (via Mexico) is produced in Colombia, with only around 8-10% of U.S.-bound flows passing through the broader Caribbean corridor, of which Venezuela accounts for a small fraction (roughly 200-250 metric tons annually, or less than 10% of global supply). This pattern held steady through 2025, per the State Department's International Narcotics Control Strategy Report.Venezuela's role has been overstated in some political rhetoric, particularly amid U.S. military actions against suspected Venezuelan smuggling boats in 2025, but experts from organizations like the Washington Office on Latin America (WOLA) and the Center for Strategic and International Studies emphasize that these shipments are negligible compared to direct Colombian-to-Mexico flows. Venezuela produces virtually no cocaine domestically (coca cultivation there is minimal and border-confined), and any transit through it to Mexico is secondary, often rerouted via clandestine flights or boats that stop in intermediary Caribbean nations first.
 

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Mexico does not receive a significant amount of its cocaine supply from Venezuela. While Venezuela serves as a transit hub for cocaine—primarily Colombian-sourced—that's funneled toward Europe, the Caribbean, or indirect routes to the U.S., the vast majority of cocaine entering Mexico (and subsequently trafficked to the U.S.) originates directly from Colombia via Pacific maritime routes or Central America. U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) estimates indicate that about 90% of cocaine reaching the U.S. (via Mexico) is produced in Colombia, with only around 8-10% of U.S.-bound flows passing through the broader Caribbean corridor, of which Venezuela accounts for a small fraction (roughly 200-250 metric tons annually, or less than 10% of global supply).
Grok is talking about who is producing it, not who is trafficking it. "While Venezuela serves as a transit hub for cocaine". Transit hub is a nice way of saying trafficking hub. Venezuela sends the coke it gets from Columbia to Mexico, and there is no country that sends more to Mexico than they do. I never once said that Venezuela produces it. But, they damn sure do traffick it at the highest rate in the western hemisphere.
 

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Besides... so if they're only the second or third most important link in the chain, we shouldn't do anything about them? Just let them carry on?

What the hell kind of stupid logic is that?
 

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Does Venezuela send the coke it gets from Columbia to Mexico

Yes, Venezuela does facilitate the transit of cocaine originating from Colombia toward Mexico as part of broader trafficking networks, though this is not its primary role. As a major transit hub due to its 1,400-mile shared border with Colombia (the world's top cocaine producer), Venezuela receives significant volumes of cocaine—estimated at 200-250 metric tons annually by the U.S. State Department in 2020, with similar levels persisting through 2023. However, the majority of cocaine leaving Venezuela is destined for Europe (via direct maritime or West African routes), while only a minority (around 10-20% of total U.S.-bound cocaine) transits through the Caribbean corridor involving Venezuela before heading to Central America and Mexico.
 

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This about two things: Meduro and oil. Drugs are the red herring. If this administration was so anti-drug they wouldn’t have pardoned Juan Hernandez a few days ago.
 

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Maduro is also a Marxist piece of shit who has ruined that country and actively conspired against this one. Maybe that has something to do with it also.
 

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I get it, Venezuela is the new boogie man. NarcoTerrorist is the new word to scare everyone into another bullshit regime change war. Military Industrial Complex demands these things.

What I don't understand is why people who have lived through the same lies and bullshit in the past are falling for it again?

These strikes on motor boats are nothing more than spectacle to distract bloodthirsty morons. For every one they blow up, hundreds get through.

The people on these boats aren't Hollywood-esque evil drug dealers. They are desperate poors offered a year's worth of wages to get these boats to wherever. Or worse, they are threatened with their lives or their families lives to do it.

Trump fucked up letting a neo-con like Marco Rubio sit at his right hand.
 

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Venezuela receives significant volumes of cocaine—estimated at 200-250 metric tons annually by the U.S. State Department in 2020
So, at 20% they only send a paltry 50 metric tons to the US. Definitely no reason to worry about them.
 
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