E_D_Guapo
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So it's not a problem?Very few do, let's not paint with a big brush.
So it's not a problem?Very few do, let's not paint with a big brush.
I agree that it didn't help in this case, my point was more that I think this is the rare exception to that.It might, and I hope it does. But having a camera rolling sure as hell didn't make any difference in this case. Jittery cop pulled the trigger anyway without seeing any sort of weapon or aggressive actions.
Did I say it wasn't a problem? It is, but 5% of the cops is what causes 95% of the problems.So it's not a problem?
I stated that it was a problem and you came back with a "let's not paint with a broad brush".Did I say it wasn't a problem? It is, but 5% of the cops is what causes 95% of the problems.
lol C'mon It was closeListen, at least you and I have civilized debates about this shit. Don't fucking put words in my mouth, dickface.
If they are holding and swinging around what looks like a gun, I can understand the idea of shoot first, ask questions later... I can see their trepidation.
Fuck, iamtdg thinks a cop should be allowed to kill anyone who startles him, for startling him...
I started that with "very few do" and I do care about the percentages because some in this thread are so gung-ho about demonizing cops that they generalize way too much.I stated that it was a problem and you came back with a "let's not paint with a broad brush".
I don't really care what the percentages are. There are too many incidents of police gunning down unarmed people. It is a problem.
A gun. In his hand. Possibly about to be pointed at you. I would say that's a little more than startling.lol C'mon It was close
Do you put words in my mouth...I started that with "very few do" and I do care about the percentages because some in this thread are so gung-ho about demonizing cops that they generalize way too much.
Did I name your name in that statement, cop hater?Do you put words in my mouth...
And some in this thread will try to justify a cop's behavior in just about any situation.I started that with "very few do" and I do care about the percentages because some in this thread are so gung-ho about demonizing cops that they generalize way too much.
I think it had a little more to do with you think a cops mind set should be shoot first ask questions later and therefore he is blameless for murdering a man holding a toy in a store selling them. I mean how is the cop not wrong. Matbe murder is overstating it, but the customer literally could not act in any that didnt end up with him shot.A gun. In his hand. Possibly about to be pointed at you. I would say that's a little more than startling.
I know you're not talking about me. i have been very pro-camera, and reasonable in this thread for the most part.And some in this thread will try to justify a cop's behavior in just about any situation.
We'll just have to leave it at that.
Did I name your name in that statement, cop hater?
Not specifically, but the prevailing attitude seems to be that if the cop feels threatened then any action is justified, regardless of if that threat is real or not.I know you're not talking about me. i have been very pro-camera, and reasonable in this thread for the most part.
A toy that looks like an assault rifle, yes. I have never once intimated that a cop should always shoot first and ask questions later. Quit trying to create drama.I think it had a little more to do with you think a cops mind set should be shoot first ask questions later and therefore he is blameless for murdering a man holding a toy in a store selling them.
They should shoot him while he was running forward. Waiting to see if he drops it would be foolish.I mean a guy ran up on him with an assualt rifle and when he dropped the bbgun it fell slightly forward, so the cops should kill him? I mean he should be stripped of his badge at the very least.
It's hard to put yourself in some bang gang (no pun intended) situations. Anyway, I have to watch a football game... I can resume this in a bit.Not specifically, but the prevailing attitude seems to be that if the cop feels threatened then any action is justified, regardless of if that threat is real or not.
You can resume it without me. It's essentially like a religion or politics thread. Nothing more can be accomplished.It's hard to put yourself in some bang gang (no pun intended) situations. Anyway, I have to watch a football game... I can resume this in a bit.
That hits at the general unreasonableness of iamtdg's position. In generally he is decent on the topic, but the idea that a cops fear justifies anything despite the reality of the situation bothers me.Not specifically, but the prevailing attitude seems to be that if the cop feels threatened then any action is justified, regardless of if that threat is real or not.
The first step is admitting it. Congratulations.Am I the only retard