I'm all for private business being able to control what they do and how they do it. But there is a line that makes me uncomfortable where an employer makes employees do medical things or be fired. I'm not sure where that line is but somewhere in there it would make me uncomfortable.
And that’s a lot of people. I’m sure many have caved when the job is threatened.
If the courts here said tomorrow that they are only letting vaccinated people in the courthouse I'd get it. Not that I want to or that I don't have enough money in the bank to survive but my career is pretty important to me.
It’s not exactly fair play. They hold and wield an advantage over many folks.
It’s a system where employers make determinations about employee guidelines and procedures all the time. The current system is if there are unions then they can negotiate but beyond that the only thing different is this particular issue has been hyped way beyond its actual importance. The employer has always levered employee requirements and they have been done on a take it or leave it format. This is no different.
I wonder if the recipient can say “fuck that”, I don’t give a shit if they were vaxxed.
In short, it is at will employment. But to be fired because of a virus and it’s alleged vaccine seems to go above and beyond the norm of fireable offenses. Feels very inequitable. A person is a stellar employee but they don’t want to vax; cut them. Does that sound reasonable ?
Sort of but not entirely. You can't tell all you employees to lop their penises off or be fired because you don't think penises are good for the workplace.
You as an employer can tell even the circumstance you outlined they then are faced with a determination of complying or not complying. They make the determination whether they will comply or leave. Their rights are not violated
The issue with vaccine mandates with employment is it was not lined out in the conditions of employment like a drug test. It was added after the fact. Kinda like telling an employee in their PDQ that they wouldn't have to work overtime, and then tell them 2 weeks into their employment that they have to work 70 hours a week.
Mandated practices are an open ended occurrence and can be addressed whenever necessary. Conditions and rights are always coming and going and have to be dealt with such as benefits that are changed subject to change. The employer has to address these issues as they occur. The circumstance with the Covid matter is that it took on a life of its own and is being used for many issues. The only real item that doesn’t need to occur under any circumstance is for determinations not being by government. The fairness issues in all this are very blatant and determined. The ones who promote vaccinations and those who do not want vaccinations. It appears to be a situation that may in fact make it to the courts then it will really get interesting. Courts will be jammed for years.
It became a problem for everyone after the fact.
I wonder when wrongful termination suits start to inundate the system.
idgas to be honesty.
That's a good point. Better update the handbook and get your legal stuff in line before making moves.
