President Trump Thread (Part 2)

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The playbook is obvious and the government shutdown plays right into it. Offer free everything, Healthcare, house, food etc. Then make people miserable by starving them out, not giving them paychecks and blaming the Republicans for all the miserable circumstances they create. People become desperate for the free shit and suddenly your stance gets heavily supported by a large percentage of the population.

This isn't rocket science. It's a thought out plan that's trying to push people towards socialism. The problem is once you get past a tipping point of government taking care of people, you can't really go back. Or at least go back easily.
they also like to call all this free stuff “rights”
 

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Bonus heartstring points for calling it a "human right."
 

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maybe if it is in fact some things, you shouldn’t say such obvious falsehoods as “not a fucking thing.”

just say the truth instead of lying which is that some things are down but probably not enough to say Trump has tamed the economy, no?
Give me your long list of things that are cheaper than they were 10 months ago.

Go.
 

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Give me your long list of things that are cheaper than they were 10 months ago.

Go.
That's moving the goalposts.

I didn't claim a list of things. I just know that it's not "not a fucking thing."

Which I knew when you said it was untrue Trump hating nonsense which is your usual thing.

I'm suggesting you give a more humble, truth seeking take, instead of the usual keyboard rage that is driven by your hatred and ends up being a flat out lie.
 

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That's moving the goalposts.

I didn't claim a list of things. I just know that it's not "not a fucking thing."

Which I knew when you said it was untrue Trump hating nonsense which is your usual thing.

I'm suggesting you give a more humble, truth seeking take, instead of the usual keyboard rage that is driven by your hatred and ends up being a flat out lie.
Hello kettle, meet black.

Trump promises to end war in Ukraine and drop energy prices by 50% immediately upon taking office and when he obviously doesn’t do so and has no intention to, that’s fine with you. I say I don’t find a fucking thing cheaper than it was 10 months ago and you tell me to be more humble?

Name a few things that are cheaper then. Until then GFY Schmitty, you pompous bitch. Better yet go wait at your mailbox for your tariff check
 
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Hello kettle, meet black.

Trump promises to end war in Ukraine and drop energy prices by 50% immediately upon taking office and when he obviously doesn’t do so and has no intention to, that’s fine with you. I say I don’t find a fucking thing cheaper than it was 10 months ago and you tell me to be more humble?

Name a few things that are cheaper then. Until GFY Schmitty, you pompous bitch. Better yet go wait at your mailbox for your tariff check
Tariff check? How about we get those sweet DOGE checks that were promised first?
 

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Hello kettle, meet black.

Trump promises to end war in Ukraine and drop energy prices by 50% immediately upon taking office and when he obviously doesn’t do so and has no intention to, that’s fine with you. I say I don’t find a fucking thing cheaper than it was 10 months ago and you tell me to be more humble?

Name a few things that are cheaper then. Until then GFY Schmitty, you pompous bitch. Better yet go wait at your mailbox for your tariff check
I think you're being a little obstinate here. It isn't like he hasn't done a whole hell of a lot trying to get that war ended. If we are being completely truthful, he has gone way above and beyond anything the previous administration even tried to do.
We all knew when he said those things that there were other issues beyond his control that would go into them, so we didn't take it literally. I know it's easier for you to make your point if you do take them literally, but realistically, all presidents have made promises that they couldn't keep. At least this one has done things to try and keep them.
The fact is some things ARE cheaper now than they were when he took office. Interest rates are starting to come down, although only because Powell had his back up against a wall, and that will help things come down further.
The deals that have been made with other governments will also inevitably lower costs on a lot of stuff as well.
 

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The fact is some things ARE cheaper now than they were when he took office.
Like what. And interest rates are not prices.

Interest rates are starting to come down, although only because Powell had his back up against a wall, and that will help things come down further.
Interest rates are coming down because of inflation, which was 3.0% over the last 12 months with a 0.3% increase in September alone, along with the higher rate of unemployment. So I guess in a way, you are correct. Trump did have a hand in bringing the interest rates down, just not in the way he wants you to believe.
 

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Hello kettle, meet black.

Trump promises to end war in Ukraine and drop energy prices by 50% immediately upon taking office and when he obviously doesn’t do so and has no intention to, that’s fine with you. I say I don’t find a fucking thing cheaper than it was 10 months ago and you tell me to be more humble?
Uh, it can be "ok with you," or "not ok with you," - that's called opinion, so yes, I am entitled to it, as are you.

I'm not on here stating that Trump ended the Ukraine war already. You are on here stating untrue things, such as "not a fucking thing is cheaper." That's not opinion, it's untruth.

Just claim hyperbole and move on.

FWIW I would agree that the second Trump administration has left much to be desired so far without a ton of prospect for it getting better as he's kind of a lame duck.

The problem is, it doesn't sound like that's my opinion because I have to be in here babysitting all the nonsense and falsehood that you are always on about, so it leaves no room for actual debate on the subject.
 

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Interest rates are a price, the price of a loan.

And Irv, I don't understand your second paragraph. Are you saying interest rates were reduced because inflation was higher? That's not how the Fed works.
 

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Interest rates are a price, the price of a loan.

And Irv, I don't understand your second paragraph. Are you saying interest rates were reduced because inflation was higher? That's not how the Fed works.
I got ahead of myself. I meant to say that they were dropping because the economy is slowing, and two big reasons it is slowing is inflation and unemployment.
 

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The problem is, it doesn't sound like that's my opinion because I have to be in here babysitting all the nonsense and falsehood that you are always on about, so it leaves no room for actual debate on the subject.
Go away then.
 
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