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Texas Ace

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This is why I was always good with Cuban owning the team.

The guy wanted to win and was willing to spend to do so and he let basketball people make basketball decisions.

I didn't give a shit what political stance he took because it has nothing to do with running the sporting side of the organization.

And now look? He's gone and the guys who own the Mavs appear to another Jones family type ownership group that only want to use the franchise to make money.

Dallas sports has never been in a worse position than the one it's about to enter.
 

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This is why I was always good with Cuban owning the team.

The guy wanted to win and was willing to spend to do so and he let basketball people make basketball decisions.

I didn't give a shit what political stance he took because it has nothing to do with running the sporting side of the organization.

And now look? He's gone and the guys who own the Mavs appear to another Jones family type ownership group that only want to use the franchise to make money.

Dallas sports has never been in a worse position than the one it's about to enter.
The Rangers are the only saving grace for that area. The owner may not go over the tax threshold but he does spend when there is a plan in place.
 

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This is why I was always good with Cuban owning the team.

The guy wanted to win and was willing to spend to do so and he let basketball people make basketball decisions.

I didn't give a shit what political stance he took because it has nothing to do with running the sporting side of the organization.

And now look? He's gone and the guys who own the Mavs appear to another Jones family type ownership group that only want to use the franchise to make money.

Dallas sports has never been in a worse position than the one it's about to enter.
I hate when "corporations" take ownership of teams instead of an individual or group.

Same thing happened with the Braves after Ted Turner sold the team. When Turner owned the Braves they went after big name free agents every summer. As soon as he sold his shares of the team and media companies took over, they significantly scaled back their free agent spending.
 
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This is why I was always good with Cuban owning the team.

The guy wanted to win and was willing to spend to do so and he let basketball people make basketball decisions.

I didn't give a shit what political stance he took because it has nothing to do with running the sporting side of the organization.

And now look? He's gone and the guys who own the Mavs appear to another Jones family type ownership group that only want to use the franchise to make money.

Dallas sports has never been in a worse position than the one it's about to enter.
I will argue against this. Cuban was called by no less than Tim Macmahon "The most involved owner in sports... and yes, that includes Jerry Jones." Plenty of times over the years he made calls himself and finally fired Donny Nelson because they butted heads so often.

Also, that thread is highly speculative at best. Sabotage the team so you can move it out of town? I seriously doubt that. Not in a big market like Dallas. If this were OKC or Orlando or something, maybe. But even then, fans aren't going to be okay with moving the team just because you traded a young superstar,

More likely to me this was a terrible trade made by a mid (at best) and power-hungry GM. People said he's had a mancrush on the Brow for a long time.
 
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Reposting since the other one got deleted from X. Someone should do one of these with Jerry in it.
 

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The fucking Kings got 3 first round picks for Fox. This trade makes me sicker by the day. I don't know how I can support then after this.
 

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Another thing I learned out of all this is that Nico Harrison was the Nike exec who infamously fumbled their pitch to Steph Curry back in the day.

They were mispronouncing Steph's name and had the wrong info and images of Kevin Durant leftover in their slide, presumably from a prior pitch.

I'd heard the story before but was unaware that Nico was the dude responsible for Curry choosing Under Armour over Nike.
 

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Another thing I learned out of all this is that Nico Harrison was the Nike exec who infamously fumbled their pitch to Steph Curry back in the day.

They were mispronouncing Steph's name and had the wrong info and images of Kevin Durant leftover in their slide, presumably from a prior pitch.

I'd heard the story before but was unaware that Nico was the dude responsible for Curry choosing Under Armour over Nike.
How the fuck does someone like that keep getting important jobs then?
 

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Probably true.

Fuck the NBA. Fuck modern sports. No one cares about winning. The money has gotten too big. The players don't care, they just want to be paid and work as little as possible and be celebs. The owners don't care, they just want to milk the fanbase for every last cent or expand to somewhere else that will pay up.

Everyone should go be hockey fans as its the last sport that cares, though those days are numbered too.
 

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I will argue against this. Cuban was called by no less than Tim Macmahon "The most involved owner in sports... and yes, that includes Jerry Jones." Plenty of times over the years he made calls himself and finally fired Donny Nelson because they butted heads so often.
There is a big difference between an involved owner and a meddling one.

Mark Cuban was the former and Jerry Jones is the latter.

And honestly, I've never had an issue with involved owners so long as they don't start thinking they're savants of whatever sport their team is involved in.

But even Belichick had Kraft make the final call here and there, so that's normal. I mean, if you paid 500 million or more for a team, you'd be involved to some degree, wouldn't you?

I know I would!

But what Mark Cuban never did was tell the coach who his starting lineup should be or pretend he was a GM and pick pet cats in the draft.

He was a damn good owner and I hated to see him go and I also knew it was going to be a step down when he left..... But I had no idea it would be this bad.
 

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pretend he was a GM

That's the big difference and it's an enormous one, the inevitable consequences which Jerry has ignored for 30 years.

If you hire a GM, you can fire him if he's not doing a good enough job, and hire a better one.

If the owner is the GM you are stuck with him come hell or high water.
 
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