Iran Attacks Israel

[Cujo]

It's time to let them duke it out. I just don't want the U.S. to play anymore than a light, supportive role.

 

[Cotton]

I just don't want the U.S. to play anymore than a light, supportive role.

I had rather them not play any role at all.

 

[Cujo]

I had rather them not play any role at all.

Me too, but you know we're not staying out of this one.

 

[Genghis Khan]

It's a bit more complicated than that, but yes Israel should absolutely fuck shit up.

I don't think think it would take us even a month, I'm not sure we'd tolerate it for a day, and shouldn't. And neither should Israel.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I had rather them not play any role at all.

I think a strong rhetorical support role is appropriate from us.

 

[Cotton]

I think a strong rhetorical support role is appropriate from us.

What doe that mean? Money?

 

[Genghis Khan]

What doe that mean? Money?

No. Rhetorical means persuasive speech. Let them do their thing. We should verbally and unequivocally back Israel in words.

The United States openly saying that you are righteous in your actions holds a lot of weight, or should. I don't think we should cower under international or domestic pressure to pretend that Palestine/ Hamas has one iota of legitimacy or any sort of point whatsoever.

 

[Cotton]

No. Rhetorical means persuasive speech. Let them do their thing. We should verbally and unequivocally back Israel in words.

The United States openly saying that you are righteous in your actions holds a lot of weight, or should. I don't think we should cower under international or domestic pressure to pretend that Palestine/ Hamas has one iota of legitimacy or any sort of point whatsoever.

Maybe I'm not understanding what the word rhetorical means. In the context of our conversation it confused me. To me it means "not needing a reply".

 

[P_T]

Maybe I'm not understanding what the word rhetorical means. In the context of our conversation it confused me. To me it means "not needing a reply".

rhetoric - (noun) language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.

 

[Cotton]

rhetoric - (noun) language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.

A rhetorical question is a question asked for a purpose other than to obtain information. In many cases it may be intended to start a discourse, as a means of displaying or emphasizing the speaker's or author's opinion on a topic.

I know what rhetoric is.

 

[Cotton]

Never mind, I'm a fucking idiot. I will admit when I'm wrong.

 

[Cotton]

I've just never seen rhetorical used in that sense.

 

[bbgun]

 

[Genghis Khan]

Maybe I'm not understanding what the word rhetorical means. In the context of our conversation it confused me. To me it means "not needing a reply".

Cujo mentioned the US having a light, supportive role.

You replied that you don't think we should have any role at all.

I'm saying that to me a light, supportive role means to say, "we believe Hamas has an iron grip on the Palestinians, and Hamas is a terrorist organization. So Israel is morally right to eradicate terrorists any way they see fit. There's no ambiguity here."

I certainly don't think we should be sending any money or military, and I don't think Israel needs it. They just need to be unfettered, and I think the US giving rhetorical (sorry - rhetorical meaning speech only) support to Israel's cause would help them.

 

[Cotton]

So Israel is morally right to eradicate terrorists any way they see fit. There's no ambiguity here."

1000%.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Do you think this administration that is so worried about the Muslim vote in Michigan would speak so forcefully in favor of Israel?

Rhetorical question, obviously.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Rhetorical question, obviously.

 

[bbgun]

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Good God. I thought Carville was usually above that stuff.

Guess it's too close to election time.

 

[bbgun]

Only Israel haters are allowed to protest, it seems.