Fisher: Taco Charlton To Be Inactive Vs. Giants

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Damn it. Would like to see him play a bit. I guess they think after his last game his trade value is likely the highest it will be. Still think he could develop if he gets the chance.
 

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Damn it. Would like to see him play a bit. I guess they think after his last game his trade value is likely the highest it will be. Still think he could develop if he gets the chance.
Should be are fucking starting RE but whatever. He isn't Marinelli's buddy or something.
 

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Should be are fucking starting RE but whatever. He isn't Marinelli's buddy or something.
Or maybe he just isn't good enough. I get that Crawford is definitely not what you want in a RDE, but this guy has the kind of flake attitude that would turn most coaches off. Not just Marinelli.
 

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Or maybe he just isn't good enough. I get that Crawford is definitely not what you want in a RDE, but this guy has the kind of flake attitude that would turn most coaches off. Not just Marinelli.
He is better than Crawford at RE from what I can see and I don't trust Marinelli's talent evaluation. This isn't a situation where I can just trust the coaches opinion and move on.

But yes I think he is a flake and I wouldn't trust him with a second contract ever. But I sure as shit would get use out of him while he is motivated.
 

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Screw him. Between Armstrong, Hyder and Jackson we should be good.
 

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If he isn't active with Quinn suspended then you might as well trade him. Even if it's a case of being snubbed by Marinelli. Unfortunately we are stuck with Marinelli so it isn't going to change.
 

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He is better than Crawford at RE from what I can see and I don't trust Marinelli's talent evaluation. This isn't a situation where I can just trust the coaches opinion and move on.

But yes I think he is a flake and I wouldn't trust him with a second contract ever. But I sure as shit would get use out of him while he is motivated.
I think his ceiling is higher than Crawford but outside of this past preseason I haven't seen any evidence that he is actually better than Crawford.

I'd like to Taco active to see if anything's changed though.

What will really bug me is if Trysten Hill is active and Taco isn't.
 

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I think his ceiling is higher than Crawford but outside of this past preseason I haven't seen any evidence that he is actually better than Crawford.

I'd like to Taco active to see if anything's changed though.

What will really bug me is if Trysten Hill is active and Taco isn't.
Well, get ready to be pissed then.
 

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If he isn't active with Quinn suspended then you might as well trade him. Even if it's a case of being snubbed by Marinelli. Unfortunately we are stuck with Marinelli so it isn't going to change.
Trade him for what though?
 

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And I'd trade him for whatever they could get, draft pick or player.
 

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Shame he couldn't have been given this game to display a passrush and work up some trade value, especially with Quinn out.
It could also serve for Dallas to see what they have in Hyder and Jackson. If they show out, then they can certainly feel better about trading him.

But honestly this is probably them resting an injury when it comes down to it.
 

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We are deep enough at DE that I'm okay with this. I had rather have Hyder get the majority of the snaps anyway.
 

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Trade him for what though?
You already lost on the pick. The guy isnt going to be active so absolutely no return on the investment. He is going to walk after contract so even if its a 7th round pick you get something back. Just write the loss off and move forward.
 

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You already lost on the pick. The guy isnt going to be active so absolutely no return on the investment. He is going to walk after contract so even if its a 7th round pick you get something back. Just write the loss off and move forward.
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You already lost on the pick. The guy isnt going to be active so absolutely no return on the investment. He is going to walk after contract so even if its a 7th round pick you get something back. Just write the loss off and move forward.
Yeah I mean at this point it seems like the team doesn't care how he performs. They appear to be holding him out because if he gets hurt he is untradable. Still seems silly to me that the best Dlineman from preseason is getting benched for others. But How Bout Them Cowboys.
 

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Yeah I mean at this point it seems like the team doesn't care how he performs. They appear to be holding him out because if he gets hurt he is untradable. Still seems silly to me that the best Dlineman from preseason is getting benched for others. But How Bout Them Cowboys.
Well, he is pretty much untradeable under normal circumstances anyways. So perhaps this is just brilliance.
 

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Apparently he bolted the locker room immediately after the game. Gotta assume the dude is gone soon
 

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After seeing how pisspoor the pass rush was and how terrible Crawford played, something is seriously wrong with sitting Charlton today.
 

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Well, get ready to be pissed then.


did yall discuss this? I find it fairly surprising/strange that Hill wasnt active.
 

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did yall discuss this? I find it fairly surprising/strange that Hill wasnt active.
Why is it surprising? He sucks. He's raw and he probably could have been drafted a full round later than he went or more.
 

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Why is it surprising? He sucks. He's raw and he probably could have been drafted a full round later than he went or more.
Ill just say Maliek didnt do a lot, plus I saw a good bit of Joe Jackson at RDE. I can't imagine Jackson is already better than Hill, but maybe so.
 

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After seeing how pisspoor the pass rush was and how terrible Crawford played, something is seriously wrong with sitting Charlton today.
He should have played. Seemed obvious. They overrate Crawfords ability to stop the run at RE. He gets sucked inside and lacks the speed to cover the edge.
 

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There's something wrong with Charlton upstairs, he clearly has enough talent to at least be a decent rotational DE but he's past the point of no return here, presumably just due to his personality/character/work ethic.
 

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There's something wrong with Charlton upstairs, he clearly has enough talent to at least be a decent rotational DE but he's past the point of no return here, presumably just due to his personality/character/work ethic.
Yeah I don't think the guy has what I'd call an ideal personality. Still he is on the team, you might as well get what use you can out of him for now. Just seems silly to waste a guy who outplayed all these other DE's in preseason just because you hate his personality.
 

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did yall discuss this? I find it fairly surprising/strange that Hill wasnt active.
I wasn't surprised, he didn't play well in preseason and looks like a project that needs weight room work as well as technique development.
 

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How are you supposed to get something decent in return if you don't showcase him? The D line is Lawrence and a bunch of JAGs. No excuse not to play him.
 

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How are you supposed to get something decent in return if you don't showcase him? The D line is Lawrence and a bunch of JAGs. No excuse not to play him.
I agree I would have played him. I actually think we might end up regretting it if we do trade him.

He did have a decent week two preseason game and followed that up with a really impressive week 3 preseason game, so teams did get to see that.

To me the only reasons not to play him were 1) if he was hurt (and Broaddus said he was healthy enough to play) or 2) if a trade was imminent and they needed to make sure he didn't get hurt.
 

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Ill just say Maliek didnt do a lot, plus I saw a good bit of Joe Jackson at RDE. I can't imagine Jackson is already better than Hill, but maybe so.
I do think Jackson is better than Hill but it's more about position flex I think. Jackson can play inside but Hill can't play outside. They can do more things with Jackson.
 

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I do think Jackson is better than Hill but it's more about position flex I think. Jackson can play inside but Hill can't play outside. They can do more things with Jackson.
You are putting way too much thought into this.

Hill is a bust in waiting. It has nothing to do with flexibility or anything else.

He was not good enough to garner being active in yesterday's game.

So Christian Covington was Woods' backup. Because he is better.
 

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You are putting way too much thought into this.

Hill is a bust in waiting. It has nothing to do with flexibility or anything else.

He was not good enough to garner being active in yesterday's game.

So Christian Covington was Woods' backup. Because he is better.
Hill is a 3 technique!!!! but yeah Hill only made the roster because of his draft status. Hopefully next year he is better with a year in the weight room.
 

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He backs up Collins, who had an alleged all-world training camp, but didnt register a single tackle yesterday.
 

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You are putting way too much thought into this.

Hill is a bust in waiting. It has nothing to do with flexibility or anything else.

He was not good enough to garner being active in yesterday's game.

So Christian Covington was Woods' backup. Because he is better.
It's true that he's not good enough right now. I'm talking about the team's reasoning. They like guys at the bottom of the roster who can line up in multiple spots.
 
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