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Might be time to consider if the combine is relevant these days. Few high level players do anything.
 

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Might be time to consider if the combine is relevant these days. Few high level players do anything.
Eh there will still be plenty of guys who participate. But the combine is more of a thing for fans then it was ever meant to be initially. And when a top guy sits out I always speculate what the reason is. Is it because the guy knows he will run a bad forty? Is it because a guy knows his draft stock is locked in and thinks he has nothing to gain?

The whole combine is overrated but I'll still watch it. The drills are still good to watch. Especially with the WRs and QBs.
 

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There are like 300 players who take part and maybe 5-10 who sit out completely, with another 25-50 who may only take part in half of the tests or so?

It's still relevant and has a huge impact on the process.
 

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Harmon ran a 4.95 and had over 34" arms....

Ty Robinson with a 4.83. How much do you guys like him?
 

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Landon Jackson jumped 40"! Whoa.

And FWIW... I thought Tyleik Williams looked really good in his drills. Pretty damn fluid and fast for 334. I guess that's an official weight? That's what's NFL.com has.
 
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Harmon ran a 4.95 and had over 34" arms....

Ty Robinson with a 4.83. How much do you guys like him?
Robinson would be nice on day 3.

As for Harmon, I've consistently said he'd be one of my top choices at 12 assuming Jeanty is gone. His height and length is somewhat reminiscent of Jason Hatcher so maybe Eberflus will like him.
 

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Burch running a 4.7 is very impressive for his size at 6-4, 280, wouldn't argue at all if he was the pick in the 2nd.
 

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Burch running a 4.7 is very impressive for his size at 6-4, 280, wouldn't argue at all if he was the pick in the 2nd.
Feels like a number of guys dropped weight to run faster. Just looking through measurements it feels like most of the DE's and some DT's dropped 10-15 pounds. Or maybe they didn't and they just never weighed as much as they listed. Who knows. But I think it's a mistake to try to put a forty time over mass sometimes.

Shemar Stuart for example. Everywhere he was listed at above 280 that I saw. Now at the combine he is 267. Which is like a normal weight for a DE. And a 4.6 at that weight is impressive. But the guy was listed at 290 all season long. Where did the 23 pounds go?
 

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Feels like a number of guys dropped weight to run faster. Just looking through measurements it feels like most of the DE's and some DT's dropped 10-15 pounds. Or maybe they didn't and they just never weighed as much as they listed. Who knows. But I think it's a mistake to try to put a forty time over mass sometimes.

Shemar Stuart for example. Everywhere he was listed at above 280 that I saw. Now at the combine he is 267. Which is like a normal weight for a DE. And a 4.6 at that weight is impressive. But the guy was listed at 290 all season long. Where did the 23 pounds go?
Sometimes schools just overembellish official listings, Stewart never looked 290 to me really, I would've guessed like 280ish, maybe 275 so 267 wasn't a huge surprise.
 

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Sometimes schools just overembellish official listings, Stewart never looked 290 to me really, I would've guessed like 280ish, maybe 275 so 267 wasn't a huge surprise.
Yeah and a dude like Pearce being 240 some pounds is no surprise. Although I think being 250 would have meant more than a 4.46 forty. But I still like him.
 

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Jalon Walker at 6-1, 243 with 32-inch arms kind of rules him out for me unless the plan is truly to have him in a Van Ginkel type of role, although I'm not sure Eberflus has a role like that in his scheme.

I think he's still a top 10-15 pick but it's more as a 3-4 OLB or in a multiple 4-3, Van Ginkel/Baun type role.

32-inch arms is a pretty big issue at his size.
 

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Jalon Walker at 6-1, 243 with 32-inch arms kind of rules him out for me unless the plan is truly to have him in a Van Ginkel type of role, although I'm not sure Eberflus has a role like that in his scheme.

I think he's still a top 10-15 pick but it's more as a 3-4 OLB or in a multiple 4-3, Van Ginkel/Baun type role.

32-inch arms is a pretty big issue at his size.
How long are Hasaan Reddick's arms? I see a valid comp there.

Edit: Checked and they are 32 and 3/4. I think he will similarly be a bust if a team tries to make him an off ball LBer.
 
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