2024 Season | Week 17 | Gameday Chatter Thread | Cowboys @ Eagles | 12/29/2024

[Chocolate Lab]

Feh. I think I'd rather the Lions lose.

They've been getting a bit uppity. Knock their pompous asses down a peg, and drop the niners down in the draft a couple spots as an added bonus.

I don't know what the SOS is, but I want them to at least stay ahead of Philly. As many teams ahead of them as possible.

 

[Rev]

Well since you said "Period" I guess that settles it.

That always does the trick.

 

[NoDak]

I don't know what the SOS is, but I want them to at least stay ahead of Philly. As many teams ahead of them as possible.

I'm lost. What do you mean? As in Detroit ahead of them in playoff seeding?

If that's the case, Detroit would have to win their division and the #1 seed to do so. Philly will be the #2 seed I think which is pretty much locked in unless they lose to the giants. Don't really see that happening, even if they start a few cheerleaders.

Edit: Actually, I think they'd still get the 2 seed even if losing to the giants. The loser between lions/vikings would be a wild card, so couldn't have the 2. So yeah... Expect them to start a shitload of cheerleaders.

 

[NoDak]

That always does the trick.

Case closed and Game. Set. Match.

Two more very powerful finishers.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Maybe I'm thinking of a different throw. Because I distinctly remember a deep throw that was far out of bounds on a deep throw.

Either way, you said it yourself. The ball landed 5 or 6 feet from his foot. Not overthrown, with the WR moving towards the landing spot. But AWAY from the spot. So Olsen must have been high if he thought that wasn't a badly thrown ball.

Not only that but Mingo had to slow down substantially. Which means it was really off target. Had he kept running he had great separation but he slowed down which is why the DB was near him at the end.

And no way that should be on the outside shoulder. Not unless you're throwing a back shoulder. Which it obviously was not.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Not only that but Mingo had to slow down substantially. Which means it was really off target. Had he kept running he had great separation but he slowed down which is why the DB was near him at the end.

And no way that should be on the outside shoulder. Not unless you're throwing a back shoulder. Which it obviously was not.

We don't have to do this all night, but Olsen said you want to throw that ball between the WR and the sideline, which Rush did. Maybe a Pro Bowl TE doesn't know, though.

On another note, Pearsall seems like a d-bag to me. Perfect Niner.

 

[NoDak]

We don't have to do this all night, but Olsen said you want to throw that ball between the WR and the sideline, which Rush did.

Nuh uh. He threw it between the WR and the line of scrimmage.

Not good, Rush. Not good.

 

[bbgun]

because we haven't dissected this enough

 

[Rev]

Period.

 

[boozeman]

Well since you said "Period" I guess that settles it.

Case closed!

 

[Chocolate Lab]

because we haven't dissected this enough

Several posts in that thread blaming Mingo.

(I still never claimed it was some great throw.)

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Olsen said you want to throw that ball between the WR and the sideline,

He doesn't know, or he just talks to talk, like a lot of announcers do. Shit watch the combine and their deep throws. They bitch continually about the outside shoulder being the wrong shoulder on deep throws. Imagine running that route, where would you want the ball? It's really difficult to catch that when it's over the wrong shoulder. The problem was it was also horribly underthrow , making it a 0% catch.

Where is the catch probability thing we see? I bet it was zero.

 

[Simpleton]

He doesn't know, or he just talks to talk, like a lot of announcers do. Shit watch the combine and their deep throws. They bitch continually about the outside shoulder being the wrong shoulder on deep throws. Imagine running that route, where would you want the ball? It's really difficult to catch that when it's over the wrong shoulder. The problem was it was also horribly underground, making it a 0% catch.

Where is the catch probability thing we see? I bet it was zero.

The only time where that makes sense to go towards the sidelines is if it's meant to be a back shoulder type adjustment, and I'd be very surprised if that was the read on that play.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

He doesn't know, or he just talks to talk, like a lot of announcers do. Shit watch the combine and their deep throws. They bitch continually about the outside shoulder being the wrong shoulder on deep throws. Imagine running that route, where would you want the ball? It's really difficult to catch that when it's over the wrong shoulder. The problem was it was also horribly underground, making it a 0% catch.

Where is the catch probability thing we see? I bet it was zero.

With the safety coming over, I can see throwing it outside.

I think it's funny that the great Mingo couldn't have run the route wrong.

 

[NoDak]

First several posts in that thread blaming Mingo.

You're not claiming twitter commenters as the voice of reason, are you?

 

[NoDak]

I think it's funny that the great Mingo couldn't have run the route wrong.

How do you run double move fly wrong, aside from just straight up falling down? And has already been stated, that throw will pretty much always be over the inside shoulder.

I say pretty much always giving you the benefit of the doubt with the safety coming over. But I doubt that was the case. I'd be interested in seeing the all22. I'd bet the safety didn't start moving until after the windup and throw. Even saying that, if you stop the above clip at :05, the safety was beat too, and by the time he catches up, Mingo was already slowing down to the underthrown ball.

The correct placement was out front, over the inside shoulder.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

With the safety coming over, I can see throwing it outside.

I think it's funny that the great Mingo couldn't have run the route wrong.

How was it the wrong route... He was supposed to stop, go and then do a backshoulder fade 40 yards down the field? I guess that's possible but it would be the dumbest route I've ever heard of.

Anyway, props to Mingo for getting wide open. It's one of the few times I have seen it since he was traded for.

By the way, you can get away with throwing that over the wrong shoulder. It's difficult but the throw still needs to be 5-10 yards further for that to work.

 

[boozeman]

I bet Jerry Jones is seeing this Mingo talk going all Jack Nicholson yes yes.gif and loving it.

 

[NoDak]

I bet Jerry Jones is seeing this Mingo talk going all Jack Nicholson yes yes.gif and loving it.

Whoa. Jerry reads here?

 

[Bill Shatner]

because we haven't dissected this enough

What an awful fuckin throw.