2023 Random Cowboys Stuff Thread

[p1_]

I mean pretty much.

After it took how many years to get rid of him?! No thanks. Do something now or GTFO.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

After it took how many years to get rid of him?! No thanks. Do something now or GTFO.

Yeah I shouldn't say I'm hoping for that. But yes, Noah Brown would be better than what Tolbert was last year. Noah Brown at least knew what he was doing. He just had almost no physical ability. Tolbert has some physical tools. He has more physical tools than Noah Brown.

I'd give him this offseason. But unless he starts flashing something I'm not sure he should be another offseason. Sort of like Noah Brown should have been moved on from a long time ago.

 

[1bigfan13]

Yeah I shouldn't say I'm hoping for that. But yes, Noah Brown would be better than what Tolbert was last year. Noah Brown at least knew what he was doing. He just had almost no physical ability. Tolbert has some physical tools. He has more physical tools than Noah Brown.

I'd give him this offseason. But unless he starts flashing something I'm not sure he should be another offseason. Sort of like Noah Brown should have been moved on from a long time ago.

He absolutely needs to show at least a little something this year in order to earn a 3rd year in Dallas.

If all our other WRs are healthy, Tolbert should see most of his action vs the opponent's 4th and 5th best DBs. If he can't win his fair share of those battles, he's a lost cause.

 

[p1_]

Im curious to see which of Tolbert or Fehoko makes more strides. It should not be close, but something tells me it will be.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

Im curious to see which of Tolbert or Fehoko makes more strides. It should not be close, but something tells me it will be.

Yeah I mean Fehoko is another guy who I'm pretty close to just moving on from. Like Noah Brown, he is fine to keep around as a fifth or sixth receiver if you don't have anyone better but these types of guys you should be getting younger guys to fill their spots who actually show some promise. You are going to keep 5 receivers on the roster. So if you don't add anyone new guys like Tolbert and Fehoko are going to make the roster by default. But in reality they really need to earn their spots otherwise I'd be drafting new guys to replace them or signing some young guys during the final cut process who I think are better than them.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Im curious to see which of Tolbert or Fehoko makes more strides. It should not be close, but something tells me it will be.

At least Fehoko has shown he's willing and tough enough to play special teams.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Not sure why Mike Martz is sort of making the rounds, but does anyone know why he loves McCarthy so much? They run different systems, etc but he seems to be a big fan, and it seems genuine to me. Maybe it's just from observation that Martz thinks he's good.

It sounds like he thinks the problem with our offense was more the details and discipline than the Xs and Os. He's also a big Dak fan. Was asked if he'd rather have Dak or Hurts for the next few years and didn't hesitate to say Dak.

 

[Simpleton]

Not sure why Mike Martz is sort of making the rounds, but does anyone know why he loves McCarthy so much? They run different systems, etc but he seems to be a big fan, and it seems genuine to me. Maybe it's just from observation that Martz thinks he's good.

It sounds like he thinks the problem with our offense was more the details and discipline than the Xs and Os. He's also a big Dak fan. Was asked if he'd rather have Dak or Hurts for the next few years and didn't hesitate to say Dak.

Because about half of the INT's Dak threw were due to poor route running and/or giving his WR's chances on 50/50 balls (comebacks to Gallup often) that they would halfheartedly fight for.

There were plenty of stupid INT's from Dak as well, and some where there was shared blame where the WR ran a shit route but it was also a spot where Dak shouldn't have been as aggressive, but a good chunk of them were just poor/sloppy play from the WR's.

 

[Cotton]

Because about half of the INT's Dak threw were due to poor route running and/or giving his WR's chances on 50/50 balls (comebacks to Gallup often) that they would halfheartedly fight for.

There were plenty of stupid INT's from Dak as well, and some where there was shared blame where the WR ran a shit route but it was also a spot where Dak shouldn't have been as aggressive, but a good chunk of them were just poor/sloppy play from the WR's.

I know this might not be popular but I like the more aggressive Dak.

 

[boozeman]

At least Fehoko has shown he's willing and tough enough to play special teams.

And that is exactly what the 4th WR on this team will be expected to do. If we draft one, all bets are off.

 

[Simpleton]

I know this might not be popular but I like the more aggressive Dak.

It's fine for the most part but there are certain situations where he has to be more judicious, like that red zone INT against the Packers in the first quarter or the INT against the Bears with like 30 seconds left before halftime as they were starting to make their way back into the game.

There's a time and place for it.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

It's fine for the most part but there are certain situations where he has to be more judicious, like that red zone INT against the Packers in the first quarter or the INT against the Bears with like 30 seconds left before halftime as they were starting to make their way back into the game.

There's a time and place for it.

Of course some of it is on the QB as always, but I think those are the kinds of things Martz believes a good OC/playcaller can help. In those situations, maybe not have so many moving parts on offense. Maybe not so many option routes. Maybe not give the QB too much latitude at the line. Those kinds of things.

 

[mcnuttz]

Noah Brown was opportunistic for a bit, but it seemed like the ball started bouncing off of him.

 

[boozeman]

Noah Brown was opportunistic for a bit, but it seemed like the ball started bouncing off of him.

There were plays where deliberate design got him success.

When the degree of difficulty became harder, that is where the clanking started.

I guess you either give him credit or decide that he became like a fixture that outlasted his utility (my view).

 

[Cowboysrock55]

There were plays where deliberate design got him success.

When the degree of difficulty became harder, that is where the clanking started.

I guess you either give him credit or decide that he became like a fixture that outlasted his utility (my view).

He could find areas against zone and catch some balls. But when teams just put man coverage on him he couldn't beat anyone. The guy just doesn't have speed or explosion. He wasn't beating anyone no matter who the corner was.

 

[boozeman]

I dunno about y’all, but I am inspired.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

I dunno about y’all, but I am inspired.

He just needs to hold onto the damn football and he will be fine.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

OMG did you see that first part? He ran up an incline!!!

 

[Cowboysrock55]

OMG did you see that first part? He ran up an incline!!!

I really hated running hills. But ours were steeper.

 

[boozeman]