2023 Combine Thread

[Cowboysrock55]

The guy is freaky for a QB and jacked. I guess we will see if a coach can figure him out.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

You going soft on the hyphenated?

The guy is right in line with Wilson and Olave from last year in my opinion. Stellar route runner. Going to get separation. But he doesn't have the physical dimensions of what we typically call a #1 WR. I'd take him in a heart beat to pair with Lamb. But I doubt he makes it to 26.

 

[boozeman]

You going soft on the hyphenated?

Those were some impressive numbers. If he caps a 4.6 or lower at his Pro Day, he is WR1 or at least WR2 behind Addison.

But there is that hyphen, man.

 

[Simpleton]

I am just joking with you. Actually a guy like LaPorta would be the best if we do take a TE. I would probably think very hard about Henderson, but it doesn't look like the braintrust agrees.

I want to pretend that getting Kincaid or Musgrave would unlock the offense, but I don't see it.

Kincaid is the best receiving TE in the draft, he'd definitely unlock some stuff.

Washington is just ridiculous though, to run that fast at that size and with that catch radius, while stepping in as a rookie and being one of the best blocking TE's in the league?

Very rare.

And I'm still 10000% onboard with Mayer if they take him at 26, he's an average athlete but the best all around TE in the draft.

Musgrave is the only guy I wouldn't be happy with in the first, and I'd also be more than happy to wait and take either Kraft or LaPorta in the second.

 

[Simpleton]

Whoa. This is pretty damn good.

Now, maybe a 4.6 is not so bad.

Those are historically great times in drills that measure lateral agility/change of direction, I'd be very comfortable taking him at 26.

 

[boozeman]

Kincaid is the best receiving TE in the draft, he'd definitely unlock some stuff.

Washington is just ridiculous though, to run that fast at that size and catch radius, while stepping in as a rookie and being one of the best blocking TE's in the league?

Very rare.

And I'm still 10000% onboard with Mayer if they take him at 26, he's an average athlete but the best all around TE in the draft.

Musgrave is the only guy I wouldn't be happy with in the first, and I'd also be more than happy to wait and take either Kraft or LaPorta in the second.

I am not yet sold on Kincaid. Washington is freakish enough to gamble on.

The sweet spot is after the first since this class is so deep.

The third/fourth could have guys like LaPorta or Kraft. The fifth could have Brenton Strange or Payne Durham.

I am entrusting Ferguson and Hendershot to get the job done. Then get a guy in the early-to-mid rounds.

 

[boozeman]

Everyone is freaking out about Anthony Richardson, but C.J. Stroud is the guy who affirmed he is the best QB in this draft.

I really don't see how anyone could rank Bryce Young over him.

 

[Simpleton]

I am not yet sold on Kincaid. Washington is freakish enough to gamble on.

The sweet spot is after the first since this class is so deep.

The third/fourth could have guys like LaPorta or Kraft. The fifth could have Brenton Strange or Payne Durham.

I am entrusting Ferguson and Hendershot to get the job done. Then get a guy in the early-to-mid rounds.

I'd be pretty shocked if LaPorta or Kraft were there in the 3rd/4th, if we want one of them I think it'd have to be the second.

I watched that USC/Utah game live where he had like 12 catches for 140 yards or whatever so I'm a bit biased, but he's a smooth route runner and just has that knack for finding soft spots and making himself a friendly target that makes Kelce so great.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Everyone is freaking out about Anthony Richardson, but C.J. Stroud is the guy who affirmed he is the best QB in this draft.

I really don't see how anyone could rank Bryce Young over him.

I was underwhelmed with Stroud all year but he was so good against Georgia. Really put it together and showed what he can do.

 

[Simpleton]

We've done a pretty good job developing TE's the last few years, Lunda Wells seems to be a really solid TE coach, so that'd make me even more comfortable taking a guy like Washington who is a freak but raw as a receiver.

 

[boozeman]

I'd be pretty shocked if LaPorta or Kraft were there in the 3rd/4th, if we want one of them I think it'd have to be the second.

I watched that USC/Utah game live where he had like 12 catches for 140 yards or whatever so I'm a bit biased, but he's a smooth route runner and just has that knack for finding soft spots and making himself a friendly target that makes Kelce so great.

I think that LaPorta will be around in the 3rd, same for Kraft.

But I get how if after watching this with LaPorta that you may think otherwise:


When you have a class this deep at that position, I would be surprised if they get gobbled up that quick.

 

[Simpleton]

I think that LaPorta will be around in the 3rd, same for Kraft.

But I get how if after watching this with LaPorta that you may think otherwise:


When you have a class this deep at that position, I would be surprised if they get gobbled up that quick.

We'll see, it's one thing if they make it 10 picks into the 3rd but we're picking at the end of the round, I can't really see either of them making it that far.

Something tells me we're going to sign Beckham and target TE in the first though since McCarthy seems to have a little bit of a TE fetish too.

 

[boozeman]

We'll see, it's one thing if they make it 10 picks into the 3rd but we're picking at the end of the round, I can't really see either of them making it that far.

Something tells me we're going to sign Beckham and target TE in the first though since McCarthy seems to have a little bit of a TE fetish too.

Beckham is probably their pathetic stab. I just don’t want to admit it because it makes me sad.

 

[Simpleton]

Beckham is probably their pathetic stab. I just don’t want to admit it because it makes me sad.

Yea I don't mind Beckham as an individual player, it's a fine risk to take because he's a potentially dynamic guy.

My real issue is that they're going to give him way too much money, which is basically a slap in the face after all these years of doing dick in FA.

 

[Plan9Misfit]

I miss him, too.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

So Mims ran a 4.38? What?

I knew he played a lot faster than the 4.54 or whatever he was estimated at, but that seems too fast for him. Not sure what to think anymore.

Side note, I know this has been going on for a while, but the way these guys take 15 seconds to cram themselves like a spring into a starting position and then go whenever they want is so un-football like.

 

[Genghis Khan]

I think that LaPorta will be around in the 3rd, same for Kraft.

But I get how if after watching this with LaPorta that you may think otherwise:


When you have a class this deep at that position, I would be surprised if they get gobbled up that quick.

That's some of the worst tackling I've ever seen. I don't have a ton of confidence that would translate in the pros.

 

[Genghis Khan]

Yea I don't mind Beckham as an individual player, it's a fine risk to take because he's a potentially dynamic guy.

My real issue is that they're going to give him way too much money, which is basically a slap in the face after all these years of doing dick in FA.

Yep, the money is the big issue. My one ray of hope is that they did the right thing during the season last year not signing him. Hopefully they show similar restraint now and if he insists on any kind of real money they walk away.

And there's actually a decent chance of that because if there's one thing we can count on with them it's that they hate spending money.

 

[Cowboysrock55]

That's some of the worst tackling I've ever seen. I don't have a ton of confidence that would translate in the pros.

It wouldn't but it also highlights his quickness and change of direction ability which is excellent for a TE. If you watch the guy he has a really good ability to run routes. He wasn't limited in his route tree like you will see some of the other top TEs in the draft. Iowa was so limited that they had this guy as the inline front side blocker on running plays and on others they had him basically playing WR. Keep in mind we may have had the worst offense in college football because of our scheme, QB and shit Oline. Yet he still put up pretty killer numbers for an Iowa receiver of any type.

Guys like LaPorta go in the second/third/fourth round and often times become better players than any of the guys you saw go in the first.

Athletically he isn't that much different than Kittle.

 

[Cotton]