Report: Injuries reported from possible shooter at Fort Hood

Now its just the one shooter.

Rev said:

Now its just the one shooter.

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Reported dead. Good.

Glad your safe 1big...situations like this suck.

Ditto Big. Glad your well.

4 dead.

Fuck you, you fucking asshole.

Finally made it home and caught the end of the post Commander's press conference. Apparently the guy just arrived to Fort Hood in February. He was being tested for PTSD. He went to an office bldg opened fire, jumped in his car and went to another bldg and opened fire again. He was finally confronted by an MP and he shot himself in front of her.

No motive as of yet.

Also, some Private is going to get reamed tomorrow morning if not tonight. His chain of command as well.

The dumbass called in to CNN and gave an interview to Wolf Blitzer from his barracks room. Had his full name plastered on the TV as well so he can't lie and say it wasn't him.

In events like this Army policy is that you direct all media questions to the Public Affairs Officers.

1bigfan13 said:

Also, some Private is going to get reamed tomorrow morning if not tonight. His chain of command as well.

The dumbass called in to CNN and gave an interview to Wolf Blitzer from his barracks room. Had his full name plastered on the TV as well so he can't lie and say it wasn't him.

In events like this Army policy is that you direct all media questions to the Public Affairs Officers.

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Yep. All federal government entities have a policy about media disclosure.

Seriously, 1big, I'm glad to hear you are okay. It must be insane to have something like this happen so close.

If he's going through testing for PTSD, why is he still allowed to carry or have access to firearms? That in itself is awfully risky.

Deuce said:

If he's going through testing for PTSD, why is he still allowed to carry or have access to firearms? That in itself is awfully risky.

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You are the expert here but aren't we talking about a huge number of guys who are dealing with the same issues? Do all of them have their weapons removed? Is that even possible?

1bigfan13 said:

Finally made it home and caught the end of the post Commander's press conference. Apparently the guy just arrived to Fort Hood in February. He was being tested for PTSD. He went to an office bldg opened fire, jumped in his car and went to another bldg and opened fire again. He was finally confronted by an MP and he shot himself in front of her.

No motive as of yet.

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Glad you made it home

Deuce said:

If he's going through testing for PTSD, why is he still allowed to carry or have access to firearms? That in itself is awfully risky.

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Who says he was allowed? All military weapons are under lock and key in the arms rooms, and can only be signed out with a COs signature authorizing movement. Even then, there is no ammunition stored there. You have to sign that out at the ammo dump.

And I really doubt he was allowed to have a civilian weapon, considering his background. Even those, you have to sign out of an arms room. There is a shitload of paper work you have to complete to be allowed to have your own on post.

My guess is that he had an illegal weapon on post. The gate guards will come under scrutiny as to how he was able to get it past them on base.

Has it been reported to what kind of weapon he used?

NoDak said:

Who says he was allowed? All military weapons are under lock and key in the arms rooms, and can only be signed out with a COs signature authorizing movement. Even then, there is no ammunition stored there. You have to sign that out at the ammo dump.

And I really doubt he was allowed to have a civilian weapon, considering his background. Even those, you have to sign out of an arms room. There is a shitload of paper work you have to complete to be allowed to have your own on post.

My guess is that he had an illegal weapon on post. The gate guards will come under scrutiny as to how he was able to get it past them on base.

Has it been reported to what kind of weapon he used?

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It was a S&W .45.

skidadl said:

You are the expert here but aren't we talking about a huge number of guys who are dealing with the same issues? Do all of them have their weapons removed? Is that even possible?

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Huge number of guys who experienced the same event, but not everyone deals with trauma the same way. I don't know military policy, but I would assume someone who's going through testing for PTSD would be on some sort of status withholding him from certain aspects of the job, much like with a medical condition...at least until he's cleared. If this was a PTSD flashback event, allowing him to have a gun in his hand makes the military liable for all kinds of shit. But to be honest, I'm not sure there isn't much they aren't liable for at this point.

Deuce said:

Huge number of guys who experienced the same event, but not everyone deals with trauma the same way. I don't know military policy, but I would assume someone who's going through testing for PTSD would be on some sort of status withholding him from certain aspects of the job, much like with a medical condition...at least until he's cleared. If this was a PTSD flashback event, allowing him to have a gun in his hand makes the military liable for all kinds of shit. But to be honest, I'm not sure there isn't much they aren't liable for at this point.

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Crazy stuff either way. We live in a sad world.

Deuce said:

If this was a PTSD flashback event, allowing him to have a gun in his hand makes the military liable for all kinds of shit. But to be honest, I'm not sure there isn't much they aren't liable for at this point.

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Where are you hearing the military ALLOWED him to have a loaded weapon on post? That's twice you've mentioned it now.

By WILL WEISSERT and PAUL J. WEBER
Associated Press
FORT HOOD, Texas (AP) - The soldier who killed three people before committing suicide in an attack on the same Texas military base where more than a dozen people were slain in 2009 had shown no recent risks of violence, authorities said Thursday.

The shooter, identified as Ivan Lopez by Texas Rep. Michael McCaul, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, opened fire at Fort Hood on Wednesday afternoon. He wounded more than a dozen others.

Military officials declined to formally identify the gunman, an enlisted soldier with the rank of specialist, by name until his family members had been officially notified.

But Army Secretary John McHugh said the soldier saw no combat during a four-month deployment to Iraq as a truck driver from August to December 2011. A review of his service record showed no Purple Heart, which indicates he never was wounded.

The soldier saw a psychiatrist last month and showed no "sign of any likely violence either to himself or others," McHugh said. His record shows "no involvement with extremist organizations of any kind."

"We're not making any assumptions by that. We're going to keep an open mind and an open investigation. We will go where the facts lead us. And possible extremist involvement is still being looked at very, very carefully. He had a clean record in terms of his behavior," McHugh said.

Within hours of the Wednesday attack, investigators started looking into whether the soldier had lingering psychological trauma from his time in Iraq. Fort Hood's senior officer, Lt. Gen. Mark Milley, said the gunman had sought help for depression, anxiety and other problems, and was taking medication.

Among the possibilities investigators were exploring was whether a fight or argument on the base triggered the attack.

"We have to find all those witnesses, the witnesses to every one of those shootings, and find out what his actions were, and what was said to the victims," a federal law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity, because he was not authorized to discuss the case by name, said hours after the shooting Wednesday.

Investigators searched the soldier's home Thursday and questioned his wife, said Fort Hood spokesman Chris Haug.

Lopez apparently walked into a building Wednesday afternoon and began firing a .45-caliber semi-automatic pistol. He then got into a vehicle and continued firing before entering another building, but he was eventually confronted by military police in a parking lot, according to Milley, senior officer on the base.

As he came within 20 feet of an officer, the gunman put his hands up but then reached under his jacket and pulled out his gun. The officer drew her own weapon, and the suspect put his gun to his head and pulled the trigger a final time, Milley said.

McHugh said the soldier, a Puerto Rico native, joined the island's National Guard in 1999 and served on a yearlong peace-keeping mission in Egypt's Sinai Peninsula in the mid-2000s. He then enlisted with the Army in 2008, McHugh said.

His weapon recently was purchased locally and was not registered to be on the base, Milley said. He arrived at Fort Hood in February from Fort Bliss, Texas.

Suzie Miller, a 71-year-old retired property manager who lived in the same apartment complex as Lopez near Fort Hood in Killeen, said few in the area knew him and his wife well because they had just moved in a few weeks ago.

"I'd see him in his uniform heading out to the car every morning," Miller said. "He was friendly to me and a lot of us around here."

Those injured Wednesday were taken to the base hospital and other local hospitals. At least three of the nine patients at Scott & White Memorial Hospital in Temple were listed in critical condition Thursday. Those three were expected to survive, Dr. Matthew Davis told reporters.

The shootings immediately revived memories of the 2009 shooting rampage on Fort Hood, the deadliest attack on a domestic military installation in U.S. history. Thirteen people were killed and more than 30 were wounded.

Until an all-clear siren sounded hours after Wednesday's shooting began, relatives of soldiers waited anxiously for news about their loved ones.

Army psychiatrist Nidal Hasan was convicted last year for the November 2009 mass shooting at Fort Hood. According to trial testimony, he walked into a crowded building, shouted "Allahu Akbar!" - Arabic for "God is great!" - and opened fire. The rampage ended when Hasan was shot in the back by base police officers.

Hasan, now paralyzed from the waist down, is on death row at the military prison at Fort Leavenworth in Kansas. He has said he acted to protect Islamic insurgents abroad from American aggression.

After that shooting, the military tightened base security nationwide. That included issuing security personnel long-barreled weapons, adding an insider-attack scenario to their training, and strengthening ties to local law enforcement. The military also joined an FBI intelligence-sharing program aimed at identifying terror threats.

In September, a former Navy man opened fire at the Washington Navy Yard, leaving 13 people dead, including the gunman. After that shooting, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel ordered the Pentagon to review security at all U.S. defense installations worldwide and examine the granting of security clearances that allow access to them

It seems like NoDak is

Making a point!!!

You've become much more uppity since you bought this joint.

Does spending 30 bucks make you feel important or something?