Week 15 Chatter Thread | Dallas Cowboys v. Buffalo Bills | 12/26/2015

Rev · Dec 27, 2015

Cowboysrock55 said:
And if you think Josh Norman doesn't have a massive impact on that defense I feel bad for you.

Or Richard Sherman but the percentages of finding those guys are way low. Better off building up front because you are more likely to succeed.

Cowboysrock55 · Dec 27, 2015

Rev said:
Or Richard Sherman but the percentages of finding those guys are way low. Better off building up front because you are more likely to succeed.

I dont know about "percentages" but I don't see a talent like that in these top rated corners so I pass. If I did though, I'd take one.

boozeman · Dec 27, 2015

Cowboysrock55 said:
And if you think Josh Norman doesn't have a massive impact on that defense I feel bad for you.

Was he a first round pick? That is what we were talking about here.

boozeman · Dec 27, 2015

Rev said:
Or Richard Sherman but the percentages of finding those guys are way low. Better off building up front because you are more likely to succeed.

Teams trip over their own dicks and find CBs of that caliber.

It is a hard position to scout, because everyone is looking for the next big thing.

Nine times out of ten, that good CB comes to you, you don't chase them.

Cotton · Dec 27, 2015

boozeman said:
No way.

Joe Gibbs, especially if he does that half a fag dance he did after they beat us back in 2006.]

Forgot about that douchenozzle. He is a close second.

Rev · Dec 27, 2015

Cowboysrock55 said:
I dont know about "percentages" but I don't see a talent like that in these top rated corners so I pass. If I did though, I'd take one.

You go back and look for all of the shutdown corners and you will find your percentages.

Cotton · Dec 27, 2015

Cowboysrock55 said:
And if you think Josh Norman doesn't have a massive impact on that defense I feel bad for you.

I'd rather have a QB. And, it's not even close.

Cowboysrock55 · Dec 27, 2015

boozeman said:
Was he a first round pick? That is what we were talking about here.

So shutdown corners exist, you just don't trust a teams ability to scout them. Fair enough. I think they can be scouted. Plenty of elite NFL corners over the years have gone in the first. But just like any NFL position, some will be found later.

Cowboysrock55 · Dec 27, 2015

Iamtdg said:
I'd rather have a QB. And, it's not even close.

Absolutely. Couldn't agree more.

I'd rather have either over a 4-3 LBer. Of course we are all restricted by the talent in any particular draft.

VA Cowboy · Dec 27, 2015

Jerry is very reactionary so hopefully Mo being a bust after being drafted in the top 10 will cause us to hesitate taking another DB that high anytime soon. Also, with Hargreaves only being 5-11 and the knock on him is not being physical along with Ramsey not being a true CB, combined with having taken Byron Jones last year, I hope we'll pass on both.

Right now I'd go with the QB Cleveland doesn't take if he proves to be worthy of going that high. Otherwise give me Jaylon Smith. If we're not in love with the QB though, my preference would be trading down a few spots if we can work it out and getting Smith, Jack, best available DL or Treadway.

Cowboysrock55 · Dec 27, 2015

VA Cowboy said:
Jerry is very reactionary so hopefully Mo being a bust after being drafted in the top 10 will cause us to hesitate taking another DB that high anytime soon. Also, with Hargreaves only being 5-11 and the knock on him is not being physical along with Ramsey not being a true CB, combined with having taken Byron Jones last year, I hope we'll pass on both.

Right now I'd go with the QB Cleveland doesn't take if he proves to be worthy of going that high. Otherwise give me Jaylon Smith. If we're not in love with the QB though, my preference would be trading down a few spots if we can work it out and getting Smith, Jack, best available DL or Treadway.

Yeah QB or trade down for me.

Simpleton · Dec 27, 2015

We need to treat next week like the 4th preseason game, sit anybody who is important who doesn't need extra reps, Witten, Tyron, Martin, Dez, etc.

Of course I doubt we will as Garrett continues the farce of acting like winning these games mean shit. If we had been able to pull 3 very winnable games out of our ass (Jets, Eagles, Saints, Bills, Bucs, Seahawks) we'd be playing for the division, but this bumfuck coaching staff couldn't even manage that, so throw Kellen Moore out there behind Chaz Green throwing to Geoff Swaim and fuck off.

boozeman · Dec 27, 2015

Simpleton said:
We need to treat next week like the 4th preseason game, sit anybody who is important who doesn't need extra reps, Witten, Tyron, Martin, Dez, etc.

Of course I doubt we will as Garrett continues the farce of acting like winning these games mean shit. If we had been able to pull 3 very winnable games out of our ass (Jets, Eagles, Saints, Bills, Bucs, Seahawks) we'd be playing for the division, but this bumfuck coaching staff couldn't even manage that, so throw Kellen Moore out there behind Chaz Green throwing to Geoff Swaim and fuck off.

No way. Garrett will want to win this game to appease the dummy fanbase that thinks a win over Washington fucking matters. Jerry feels the same way.

VA Cowboy · Dec 27, 2015

Lowest we'd fall is 8th. I think we'd still get either Jaylon Smith or Jack. At worse a DL or Treadway. Of course where it would hurt us is rounds 2-4 where we'd be drafting 3-4 spots lower. That said, we'll still probably lose unless the Redskins play mostly backups and even then it'd probably be close.

VA Cowboy · Dec 27, 2015

Mike Zimmer. Another case of a Cowboy succeeding once he is away from the Jerry circus.

Clay_Allison · Dec 28, 2015

VA Cowboy said:
Mike Zimmer. Another case of a Cowboy succeeding once he is away from the Jerry circus.

Didn't hurt that he learned to coach defense from the architect of the 2000 Ravens D instead of Dave Campo between then and now.

Cowboysrock55 · Dec 28, 2015

VA Cowboy said:
Lowest we'd fall is 8th. I think we'd still get either Jaylon Smith or Jack. At worse a DL or Treadway. Of course where it would hurt us is rounds 2-4 where we'd be drafting 3-4 spots lower. That said, we'll still probably lose unless the Redskins play mostly backups and even then it'd probably be close.

Didn't we beat the Skins last time we played them? I hope we have enough good sense to not try hard to beat them this time.

BipolarFuk · Dec 28, 2015

Wonder if Romo has another season or two in him? If not, call me when they get a Qb.

Genghis Khan · Dec 28, 2015

Cowboysrock55 said:
Didn't we beat the Skins last time we played them? I hope we have enough good sense to not try hard to beat them this time.

This time however we have Kellen Moore playing and I'm hoping Dez won't be. Hopefully that makes a difference.

townsend · Dec 28, 2015

Clay_Allison said:
Didn't hurt that he learned to coach defense from the architect of the 2000 Ravens D instead of Dave Campo between then and now.

Also he wasn't forced to coordinate a 3-4 defense with 4-3 personnel.

It's not like his defenses were anything other than Mike Zimmer defenses either, he hasn't had an all-timer D on his resume, it's just way more effective when you can run your scheme, and you aren't trying to keep a team afloat with Quincy Carter on the other side of the ball. Rod Marinelli has pretty much had half of the Zimmer experience this year.

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