Clay_Allison
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They are the starters, sure. safety is a higher contact position and we have no depth.Why Heath?
What happened to Church/Wilcox?
They are the starters, sure. safety is a higher contact position and we have no depth.Why Heath?
What happened to Church/Wilcox?
You are misdiagnosing the primary reason.Last year's playoffs showed just how bad the Cowboys pass coverage was vs. elite talent. And I'm not talking about the 1st WR, but the second and third ones.
We hope the pass rush is fixed. Hardy hopefully iwill get some relief otherwise he is out most of the season. Gregory has a lot of upside but is a rookie. Lawrence is virtually a rookie so I think there is room for reservation at the moment.You are misdiagnosing the primary reason.
It was pass rush, not lack of talent at CB. Sure, Claiborne struggled and Patmon/Moore were nothing special, but theres nothing wrong with Carr and Scandrick.
Upgrading fourth corner isn't nearly as important to the defense as upgrading free safety, now that the pass rush is fixed.
I seriously doubt that Jones will be our fourth corner.Upgrading fourth corner isn't nearly as important to the defense as upgrading free safety, now that the pass rush is fixed.
I wouldn't call Lawrence virtually a rookie. He was injured half his Rookie season. But so was Sean Lee. He came on strong in the playoffs. His physique (which is what limits most rookie lineman) should reflect an offseason of work.We hope the pass rush is fixed. Hardy hopefully iwill get some relief otherwise he is out most of the season. Gregory has a lot of upside but is a rookie. Lawrence is virtually a rookie so I think there is room for reservation at the moment.
He might do very well but as a practical matter he will begin the season with less than 8 games under his belt. Thats still rookie territory.I wouldn't call Lawrence virtually a rookie. He was injured half his Rookie season. But so was Sean Lee. He came on strong in the playoffs. His physique (which is what limits most rookie lineman) should reflect an offseason of work.
9 games counting playoffs.He might do very well but as a practical matter he will begin the season with less than 8 games under his belt. Thats still rookie territory.
Okay.9 games counting playoffs.
Rodgers' inability to escape the pocket even things up quite a bit and Dallas had two sacks and a forced fumble on him-- much more than most teams get against Rodgers.You are misdiagnosing the primary reason.
It was pass rush, not lack of talent at CB. Sure, Claiborne struggled and Patmon/Moore were nothing special, but theres nothing wrong with Carr and Scandrick.
Upgrading fourth corner isn't nearly as important to the defense as upgrading free safety, now that the pass rush is fixed.
I'm not implying anything. I'm telling you straight up that Scandrick-Carr-White-Patmon are just fine as your top 4 CBs if your pass rush isn't bottom of the barrel like ours has been. And if Claiborne gives us anything that's even better.You are also implying the quality of coverage didn't matter, which is false.
I agree. Putting Jones at FS ensures our top 4 defensive backs are always on the field.I'm not implying anything. I'm telling you straight up that Scandrick-Carr-White-Patmon are just fine as your top 4 CBs if your pass rush isn't bottom of the barrel like ours has been. And if Claiborne gives us anything that's even better.
Byron Jones is overkill at the position and much more valuable feeding off that pass rush by using his athleticism to prowl the middle of the field defending passes... If he's capable of it like we've heard.
How in the hell do you know Patmon and White are fine being your 3 and 4th CB's?I'm not implying anything. I'm telling you straight up that Scandrick-Carr-White-Patmon are just fine as your top 4 CBs if your pass rush isn't bottom of the barrel like ours has been. And if Claiborne gives us anything that's even better.
Byron Jones is overkill at the position and much more valuable feeding off that pass rush by using his athleticism to prowl the middle of the field defending passes... If he's capable of it like we've heard.
Those were their roles last year.How in the hell do you know Patmon and White are fine being your 3 and 4th CB's
Sure it's possible, but then he's out of position and making tackles which is not what he's built for at all.I agree. Putting Jones at FS ensures our top 4 defensive backs are always on the field.
Yeah, I don't agree with that, either. That was a strange comment. The SS is the box safety, supporting the run first. The FS roams free covering from sideline to sideline, usually over the top of the deep pass. Considering they line up around 15-20 yards off the ball, I wouldn't say their #1 job is run support.I don't agree that the main priority for a FS is run support. To me they serve basically as a 3rd CB.
I don't agree that the main priority for a FS is run support. To me they serve basically as a 3rd CB.
I understand this take since it appears like FS's do just about everything, but they don't have man coverage on a single WR like a CB would and so are looking back in run support. They may line up 15-20 yards back but then they fly to the football on every play.Yeah, I don't agree with that, either. That was a strange comment. The SS is the box safety, supporting the run first. The FS roams free covering from sideline to sideline, usually over the top of the deep pass. Considering they line up around 15-20 yards off the ball, I wouldn't say their #1 job is run support.