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I'm pretty sure you Texans are more Canadian than I am.Isn't that up there by your homeland?
I'm pretty sure you Texans are more Canadian than I am.Isn't that up there by your homeland?
You bastard.I'm pretty sure you Texans are more Canadian than I am.
The commish of the Pac 10 was in Lubbock that day. A deal was struck and we ended up being screwed in the end. A legit conference with fair money sharing and an even vote. But nooooo we are stuck in this pile of crap.According to this SI.com article, Oklahoma was 30 minutes away from joining the PAC 10 back in 2010.
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The board of regents at Oklahoma was “within 30 minutes” of deciding to move the school to the Pac-10 in 2010, according to CBS Sports.
Citing a source from within the school, the report states that Oklahoma nearly joined in on a plan to expand the Pac-10 to 16 schools by adding six programs from the Big 12. Oklahoma ultimately stayed, and the Pac-10 recruited Utah and Colorado to become the Pac-12.
Oklahoma's president and board of regents are currently in disagreement on the future of the Big 12, which has 10 teams.
President David Boren is one of the main supporters of expanding to 12 schools, which would allow the conference to play a football championship game. However, board of regents chairman Max Weitzenhoffer said that he and others on the board don’t agree that there is a significant advantage to expansion.
If I had to choose I like to see the BIG XII add Cincinnati and UCF. That way you get visibility in 2 of the top 5 recruiting states.
Plus the Stoops are Ohio natives.
Serious question - could UCF grow into a brand? I'm not insulting but what could the school really do? If they could start picking up some real talent from FL they could compete in the Big 12 regularly. How do you see it going down if it happens? UCF doesn't have a real national presence or many known traditions outside of the school, so it could be a perfect storm. They aren't overcoming any perceptions.
Plus that would give you an opportunity to drive up for one of my epic tailgates when we host Oklahoma.
I am not sure I would care about national presence at this point. My main concern would be to position the league for a championship game. That is the biggest rap on the conference toward a national championship run because of polls and ratings.Serious question - could UCF grow into a brand? I'm not insulting but what could the school really do? If they could start picking up some real talent from FL they could compete in the Big 12 regularly. How do you see it going down if it happens? UCF doesn't have a real national presence or many known traditions outside of the school, so it could be a perfect storm. They aren't overcoming any perceptions.
Whether it becomes nationally recognized or not remains to be seen, but they are in the process of implementing their branding plan. I think they've done a nice job regionally and has some nationally recognition, thanks in part to the Fiesta Bowl. Add to that the massive Baby Boomeresque Alumni boost that will coming in a few years due to our massive enrollment and I think it's a brand that will carry some weight.Serious question - could UCF grow into a brand? I'm not insulting but what could the school really do? If they could start picking up some real talent from FL they could compete in the Big 12 regularly. How do you see it going down if it happens? UCF doesn't have a real national presence or many known traditions outside of the school, so it could be a perfect storm. They aren't overcoming any perceptions.
Whaaa? The BOR doesn't matter?Doesn't really matter what the BOR does or doesn't want. This is a President's vote and Boren is all in at this point with how much he's pined for it.
I think that UCF is poised to do well. Of course with that sort of deal you have to be ready when the stars align. It all depends on being at the right place at the right time. It doesn't totally depend on just effort.Whether it becomes nationally recognized or not remains to be seen, but they are in the process of implementing their branding plan. I think they've done a nice job regionally and has some nationally recognition, thanks in part to the Fiesta Bowl. Add to that the massive Baby Boomeresque Alumni boost that will coming in a few years due to our massive enrollment and I think it's a brand that will carry some weight.
We also now that have a real nice, young AD who's jumped in feet first and made a lot of necessary changes after only 4 months on the job. In 3 years, he rebranded Buffalo which led to a jump of 137% in donations and endowments. With his expertise, I think he can take us further. In the few months he's been in charge, he implemented a Football Excellence Fund which has raised well over $1M in the first two months, cancelled negotiations with IMG and moved all our broadcasting and marketing in house and cleaned house with a lot of our athletic programs and staffs. In 2016, we'll have a new FB coaches, men and women's BB, men and women's tennis, men and women golf and expecting to cut lose our underachieving baseball coach once season ends. He's taking this Atheltics Association to new heights in a short time. Where all this money is coming from, I don't know. But it's obvious the commitment from the university is there.
Ya, they are pretty sweet. Our tradition has always been pretty bland, mostly because GOL had a very business like approach and didn't want to be bothered by uni's. He didn't even allow names. Now Frost has changed everything.I think that UCF is poised to do well. Of course with that sort of deal you have to be ready when the stars align. It all depends on being at the right place at the right time. It doesn't totally depend on just effort.
I think that Baylor is really a good example of that. I know that is a sore subject for you (me too) but they went all-in with their athletics and really did something with it. UCF has a broader base but not deeper. But still, you guys could do well. We had a chance to make some moves about 10 years back but our coach phoned it in right when things were getting good.
BTW the new unis look really sweet. I don't know if they line up with your tradition but they are pretty clean.
Do you expect Frost to install the Oregon offense that we are accustomed to seeing?Ya, they are pretty sweet. Our tradition has always been pretty bland, mostly because GOL had a very business like approach and didn't want to be bothered by uni's. He didn't even allow names. Now Frost has changed everything.
That's the plan. We were pretty devoid of speed on offense last year and he recruited some high level speedsters to get the ball rolling, but how many freshman WR and RB can you count on at once. It'll take a year or two to get going.Do you expect Frost to install the Oregon offense that we are accustomed to seeing?
You do realize that the BOR is the president's boss, right?Doesn't really matter what the BOR does or doesn't want. This is a President's vote and Boren is all in at this point with how much he's pined for it.
Yes, but he's still the man who makes the decision and I seriously doubt he's going to let them persuade him of voting against something when he was the only real proponent of it for so long.You do realize that the BOR is the president's boss, right?