The Rams running game during the that era was a goal for the Cowboys to shoot for while they have this o-line, not a comparison between Elliott and the great Eric Dickerson.But please bring up Dickerson again so I can have another great laugh.
I'm not against Miller. I just believe Elliott is better in most ways. Also I have said many times taking Elliott at 4 is lazy. I also never said he's AP. Each draft is different, and in this one there are only a couple of truly special talents. Elliott is the all-time best from OSU, and that's nothing to sneeze at.I don't agree. I don't see Ezekiel Elliot as an Adrian Peterson-like stud.
I think he's a very good back but I think we would be buying low on Miller and I think he's a potential Pro Bowler behind this line as well.
Because it's not the NFL and stats and especially stats from different conferences don't mean a whole lot. Melvin Gordon had like 3000 rushing yards in 2014, he was still the inferior back to Gurley.The Rams running game during the that era was a goal for the Cowboys to shoot for while they have this o-line, not a comparison between Elliott and the great Eric Dickerson.
As for Fournette/Elliott, here are their sophomore seasons:
Elliott: 15 273 1878 6.9 18 28 220 7.9 0
Fournette: 12 300 1953 6.5 22 19 253 13.3 1
How is that not comparable?
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You could have just said the rams rushing attack because it was more than just Dickerson, Charles White had some nice years as well, which proves the point you don't need to invest a top 5 pick in a RB.The Rams running game during the that era was a goal for the Cowboys to shoot for while they have this o-line, not a comparison between Elliott and the great Eric Dickerson.
As for Fournette/Elliott, here are their sophomore seasons:
Elliott: 15 273 1878 6.9 18 28 220 7.9 0
Fournette: 12 300 1953 6.5 22 19 253 13.3 1
How is that not comparable?
Elliott is more accomplished as a pass blocker. Fournette is more of a bruiser, and I believe his style will get him worn out faster, ala Larry Johnson.
I'm not against Miller. I just believe Elliott is better in most ways. Also I have said many times taking Elliott at 4 is lazy. I also never said he's AP. Each draft is different, and in this one there are only a couple of truly special talents. Elliott is the all-time best from OSU, and that's nothing to sneeze at.
BTW, with the huge amount of cap space now available, someone is going to empty a Brinks truck on Miller's lawn this offseason. Murray's deal from last year could be the standard.
Good Lord. Ok, I always said the "Rams with Dickerson", not Dickerson by himself. My intention was never to directly and randomly compare Ezekiel Elliott with Eric Dickerson, but with the model of the best OL and best possible RB for the Cowboys as a way forward, no matter what.You could have just said the rams rushing attack because it was more than just Dickerson, Charles White had some nice years as well, which proves the point you don't need to invest a top 5 pick in a RB.
Dickerson's name should have never been used and even so those teams have how many superbowls?
And LSU did jack shat with Fournette as a result. But Elliott was clearly the driving force behind OSU's push to the title. You could see it. He should have done it again, if his coach hadn't brain farted.Also Ohio State had a much more dynamic offense and LSU was totally dependent on Fournette.
Without question, anyone could see that difference between Gurley and Gordon, especially as you looked at more plays.Because it's not the NFL and stats and especially stats from different conferences don't mean a whole lot. Melvin Gordon had like 3000 rushing yards in 2014, he was still the inferior back to Gurley.
I've come to agree Fournette is a better pure runner than Elliott but you and I have differing opinions about what "league" means. They are close, and definitely closer than you say.Looking at more plays I can unquestionably see the difference between Fournette and Elliott, I just can't see the difference between Gordon and Elliott.
Fournette has so much more power in his running. If he runs into a defender, the defender bounces back. If Elliott runs into a defender, Elliot bounces back. Ezekiel's quick and slippery, like Gordon, but he's no rumbler. He also doesn't seem to have that second gear that Fournette has. Elliott's initial burst is amazing, but that seems to be all he's got. I think he's gotten away with slipping out of a bunch of weak ass arm tackles. He doesn't seem to have the shear physicality that Fournette brings to an offense.
Watching what I can find, I do not see them as being in close to the same league.
Gordon weighed in at 215 at the combine. Elliott was 225 at the combine. I'm pretty good at math and that comes out to a 10 pound difference...Elliott is stockier, 20 pounds heavier (not fat), and faster than Gordon. As you described, his initial burst is excellent. He's basically the Anti-Gordon.
Gordon must have shown up soaking wet. He did seem more elusive in college where he was listed as 207, and even there he was not the kind to break many tackles.Gordon weighed in at 215 at the combine. Elliott was 225 at the combine. I'm pretty good at math and that comes out to a 10 pound difference...
Gordon doesn't have chicken legs either. Not sure where you got that at. But he was more elusive then Elliott if that's what you're getting at.
Zeke plz kthxbaiJosh Norris and Broaddus have said this week they have Jack and Elliot 1st and 2nd on their boards. So there's that.
What in Hell is this love affair with Jack? I don't get it. I guess because he was 245 at the combine up from his college playing weight of 230. But in general I could give a damn about his being an "athlete" or that he also played RB.Josh Norris and Broaddus have said this week they have Jack and Elliot 1st and 2nd on their boards. So there's that.
Fuck it I agree. Henry won't be there in the 2nd.Zeke plz kthxbai
Who gives a shit who Norris and Broaddus think is the top player. If you have Elliott as the best player in the draft I wouldn't pay attention to anything else you say because you're clueless.Josh Norris and Broaddus have said this week they have Jack and Elliot 1st and 2nd on their boards. So there's that.
Yep. I feel like they could trade down to 7 with SF and get Elliot (although probably not Jack).Well if we are gonna do that by god at least trade down first and get an extra second and third/fourth.
I thought the implication was that this was the Cowboys' rankings.Who gives a shit who Norris and Broaddus think is the top player. If you have Elliott as the best player in the draft I wouldn't pay attention to anything else you say because you're clueless.
How are you going to trade down in the first?Well if we are gonna do that by god at least trade down first and get an extra second and third/fourth.
I seriously doubt the Eagles will. But if they do who cares. A rival just reached for a RB. I'd be clapping my hands in excitement. Probably wouldn't even go for 800 yards with that shitty offensive line.Both the Giants and Eagles would jump on Elliott.