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Cotton · May 9, 2014

VA Cowboy said:
That trade would be idiotic. I like Lawrence but not if it costs us a 3rd. There are 7-8 DL I would have no problem with in the 2nd. No way half of the guys taken ahead of us will be DL so a few, at least a couple of them will drop to us. Besides, the Eagles just got a 3rd for moving down 5 spots in the 1st. And last year we just received a 3rd for moving down a dozen or so spots in the 1st. Ludicre to give up a 3rd to move up in the 2nd.

Agreed.

NoDak · May 9, 2014

E_D_Guapo said:
Eatman said on the Break that Dallas almost traded up for the #32 pick last night. Said Seattle called them and Stephen considered the offer but ultimately passed.

If that's the case it sounds awfully likely they move up from 47.

It wouldn't surprise me if we move up for Lawrence. I like him, but don't want to trade up. Let the draft come to you, and there will be a good Dlineman there for us at 47. And another in the 3rd. Just stand fast and take the BPA on the Dline and we'll be golden.

Then Jerry can play GM after that.

jsmith6919 · May 9, 2014

VA Cowboy said:
That trade would be idiotic. I like Lawrence but not if it costs us a 3rd. There are 7-8 DL I would have no problem with in the 2nd. No way half of the guys taken ahead of us will be DL so a few, at least a couple of them will drop to us. Besides, the Eagles just got a 3rd for moving down 5 spots in the 1st. And last year we just received a 3rd for moving down a dozen or so spots in the 1st. Ludicre to give up a 3rd to move up in the 2nd.

Really hope we don't do this, I really like Lawrence but not enough to give up a 3rd

E_D_Guapo · May 9, 2014

NoDak said:
It wouldn't surprise me if we move up for Lawrence. I like him, but don't want to trade up. Let the draft come to you, and there will be a good Dlineman there for us at 47. And another in the 3rd. Just stand fast and take the BPA on the Dline and we'll be golden.

Then Jerry can play GM after that.

I don't know the players like a lot of you guys that have been looking at them all offseason , but IMO they better have a strong first round grade on someone if they're going to burn their 3rd to move up. And they better be right. I'm not keen on the idea of losing that pick. Consensus from what I've read on the board is that these DEs they're looking at aren't worth it.

jsmith6919 · May 9, 2014

Final cost of the rg3 trade

NoDak · May 9, 2014

E_D_Guapo said:
I don't know the players like a lot of you guys that have been looking at them all offseason , but IMO they better have a strong first round grade on someone if they're going to burn their 3rd to move up. And they better be right. I'm not keen on the idea of losing that pick. Consensus from what I've read on the board is that these DEs they're looking at aren't worth it.

I think Lawrence would have a late first grade by a few teams. At least by the way it sounds from the so called draft experts on TV. But I'd still hate to lose my 3rd, or a pick next year to move up for him.

Deuce · May 9, 2014

NoDak said:
I think Lawrence would have a late first grade by a few teams. At least by the way it sounds from the so called draft experts on TV. But I'd still hate to lose my 3rd, or a pick next year to move up for him.

I'd hate to give up a 3rd as well, but if it means getting a 1st rounder out of it it's totally worth it.

E_D_Guapo · May 9, 2014

Eatman also said that he believes they have a 1st round grade on WR Marqise Lee. Hard to imagine them moving up for a WR with so many needs on D though.

Deuce · May 9, 2014

E_D_Guapo said:
Eatman also said that he believes they have a 1st round grade on WR Marqise Lee. Hard to imagine them moving up for a WR with so many needs on D though.

I would hope Shady McCoy has taught Jerruh a lesson on not passing up 1st round grades.

E_D_Guapo · May 9, 2014

Deuce said:
I would hope Shady McCoy has taught Jerruh a lesson on not passing up 1st round grades.

Is Lee not a player you want your Jags to draft so your boyfriend Bortles can have a talented young WR to throw to?

Cotton · May 9, 2014

Angrymesscan · May 9, 2014

No way do you trade up

Smitty · May 9, 2014

Iamtdg said:

Have to think at THAT point, I'd consider trying to get another late second to grab a second one of them.

Smitty · May 9, 2014

jsmith6919 said:
Final cost of the rg3 trade

If RG3 had been Andrew Luck, it would all be worth it.

ravidubey · May 9, 2014

Trade 78 and 47 for 33 to get a guy who you had ranked at 22, then maybe-- if you don't think highly of the talent that will drop to 78. IMO this draft is deep enough and Dallas needs quantity and quality.

This is the reverse of getting Marc Stepnoski, Rhondy Wheston, and Willis Crockett for Steve Wisniewski. Wisniewski was a dominant guard, but Stepnoski was a solid enough center that taking a chance on Wheston and Crockett was worth the difference.

If you think DeMarcus Lawrence won't fall to 47 but Crichton will, then is Lawrence worth both Crichton and Jackson Jeffcoat?

In hindsight, Jimmy should have stuck with Wisniewski because Wheston and Crockett weren't worth the price it too to fly them to Dallas.

ravidubey · May 9, 2014

mschmidt64 said:
If RG3 had been Andrew Luck, it would all be worth it.

Washington fans still think he is.

boozeman · May 9, 2014

Here's how I see the 2nd/3rd...

33	2	Houston Texans	Nix, Louis*	DT	Notre Dame
34	2	Washington Redskins	Moses, Morgan	OT	Virginia
35	2	Cleveland Browns	Su'a-Filo, Xavier	OG	UCLA
36	2	Oakland Raiders	Carr, Derek	QB	Fresno State
37	2	Atlanta Falcons	Ealy, Kony*	DE	Missouri
38	2	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Bitonio, Joel	OT	Nevada
39	2	Jacksonville Jaguars	Van Noy, Kyle	OLB	Brigham Young
40	2	Seattle Seahawks	Matthews, Jordan	WR	Vanderbilt
41	2	Buffalo Bills	Seferian-Jenkins, Austin*	TE	Washington
42	2	Tennessee Titans	Hageman, RaShede	DT	Minnesota
43	2	New York Giants	Hyde, Carlos	RB	Ohio State
44	2	St. Louis Rams	Bryant, Martavius*	WR	Clemson
45	2	Detroit Lions	Richburg, Weston	C	Colorado State
46	2	Pittsburgh Steelers	Tuitt, Stephon*	DT	Notre Dame
47	2	Dallas Cowboys	Lawrence, Demarcus*	DE	Boise State
48	2	Baltimore Ravens	Kouandjio, Cyrus*	OT	Alabama
49	2	New York Jets	Amaro, Jace*	TE	Texas Tech
50	2	Miami Dolphins	Lee, Marqise*	WR	USC
51	2	Chicago Bears	Sutton, Will	DT	Arizona State
52	2	Arizona Cardinals	Mettenberger, Zach	QB	LSU
53	2	Green Bay Packers	Niklas, Troy*	TE	Notre Dame
54	2	Philadelphia Eagles	Robinson, Allen*	WR	Penn State
55	2	Cincinnati Bengals	Savage, Tom	QB	Pittsburgh
56	2	San Francisco 49ers	Latimer, Cody*	WR	Indiana
57	2	San Diego Chargers	Attaochu, Jeremiah	OLB	Georgia Tech
58	2	New Orleans Saints	Martin, Marcus*	C	USC
59	2	Indianapolis Colts	Turner, Trai*	OG	LSU
60	2	Carolina Panthers	Turner, Billy	OT	North Dakota State
61	2	San Francisco 49ers	Murphy, Trent	DE	Stanford
62	2	New England Patriots	Fiedorowicz, C.J.	TE	Iowa
63	2	Denver Broncos	Borland, Chris	ILB	Wisconsin
64	2	Seattle Seahawks	Crichton, Scott*	DE	Oregon State
65	3	Houston Texans	Mewhort, Jack	OT	Ohio State
66	3	Washington Redskins	Jean-Baptiste, Stanley	CB	Nebraska
67	3	Oakland Raiders	Richardson, Antonio	OT	Tennessee
68	3	Atlanta Falcons	West, Terrance*	RB	Towson
69	3	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Martin, Kareem	DE	North Carolina
70	3	Jacksonville Jaguars	Hill, Jeremy*	RB	LSU
71	3	Cleveland Browns	Brown, Preston	ILB	Louisville
72	3	Minnesota Vikings	Desir, Pierre	CB	Lindenwood
73	3	Buffalo Bills	Breeland, Bashaud*	CB	Clemson
74	3	New York Giants	Yankey, David*	OG	Stanford
75	3	St. Louis Rams	Joyner, Lamarcus	CB	Florida State
76	3	Detroit Lions	Jackson, Gabe	OG	Mississippi State
77	3	San Francisco 49ers	Bradford, Carl*	OLB	Arizona State
78	3	Dallas Cowboys	Jernigan, Timmy*	DT	Florida State
79	3	Baltimore Ravens	McGill, Keith	CB	Utah
80	3	New York Jets	Landry, Jarvis*	WR	LSU
81	3	Miami Dolphins	Reid, Caraun	DT	Princeton
82	3	Chicago Bears	Smith, Telvin	OLB	Florida State
83	3	Philadelphia Eagles	Dozier, Dakota	OG	Furman
84	3	Arizona Cardinals	Aikens, Walt	CB	Liberty
85	3	Green Bay Packers	Herron, Robert	WR	Wyoming
86	3	Philadelphia Eagles	Clarke, Will	DE	West Virginia
87	3	Kansas City Chiefs	Moncrief, Donte*	WR	Mississippi
88	3	Cincinnati Bengals	Ellington, Bruce*	WR	South Carolina
89	3	San Diego Chargers	Jones, DaQuan	DT	Penn State
90	3	Indianapolis Colts	Adams, Davante*	WR	Fresno State
91	3	Arizona Cardinals	Mason, Tre	RB	Auburn
92	3	Carolina Panthers	Watkins, Jaylen	CB	Florida
93	3	New England Patriots	Garoppolo, Jimmy	QB	Eastern Illinois
94	3	San Francisco 49ers	Exum, Antone	CB	Virginia Tech
95	3	Denver Broncos	Swanson, Travis	C	Arkansas
96	3	Minnesota Vikings	Smith, Chris	DE	Arkansas
97	3	Pittsburgh Steelers	Gaines, Phillip	CB	Rice
98	3	Green Bay Packers	Brooks, Terrence	FS	Florida State
99	3	Baltimore Ravens	Southward, Dezmon	SS	Wisconsin
100	3	San Francisco 49ers	Richardson, Paul*	WR	Colorado

NoDak · May 9, 2014

mschmidt64 said:
Have to think at THAT point, I'd consider trying to get another late second to grab a second one of them.

Yeah. Coming away with Jernigan and Crichton in that scenario would be fap worthy. This years 3rd and 4th do it? 3rd, 5th, 3-7ths?

NoDak · May 9, 2014

boozeman said:
Here's how I see the 2nd/3rd...

If we come away with Lawrence and Jernigan with NO trade ups, I will fucking shit my pants and fingerpaint my happiness on the walls for all the world to see.

E_D_Guapo · May 9, 2014

NoDak said:
If we come away with Lawrence and Jernigan with NO trade ups, I will fucking shit my pants and fingerpaint my happiness on the walls for all the world to see.

If that happens it's definitely a "pix of GTFO" situation.

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