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I've heard RNC strategists saying they'll run Kasich as a 3rd party candidate to oppose Trump if they can't stop him with a Brokered convention, so that's probably enough to sink him either way. Personally I think they will stop him short of 1253. It's a shame that the one chance we had for an anti-establishment candidate to blow up the RNC's culture of mega donors and dynasties was wasted on Trump. Some part of me wants him to win just to punish both political parties for the shit they've tried to pawn off on us for the last 28 years, but I admit I can't bring myself to vote for him. If he does end up as the nominee I probably roll my eyes and vote for Gary Johnson.
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I've heard RNC strategists saying they'll run Kasich as a 3rd party candidate to oppose Trump if they can't stop him with a Brokered convention, so that's probably enough to sink him either way. Personally I think they will stop him short of 1253. It's a shame that the one chance we had for an anti-establishment candidate to blow up the RNC's culture of mega donors and dynasties was wasted on Trump. Some part of me wants him to win just to punish both political parties for the shit they've tried to pawn off on us for the last 28 years, but I admit I can't bring myself to vote for him. If he does end up as the nominee I probably roll my eyes and vote for Gary Johnson.
If there is a brokered convention and they take the nomination from Trump, how much do you want to bet that Trump runs third party? Either way, Hitlary waltzes into the White House.
 

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If there is a brokered convention and they take the nomination from Trump, how much do you want to bet that Trump runs third party? Either way, Hitlary waltzes into the White House.
The GOP is about an inch away from lighting the fuse to blow themselves to hell and back.
 

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The GOP is about an inch away from lighting the fuse to blow themselves to hell and back.
In a way it's the best case scenario. Trump loses, and his weird populist wave crashes. Once he loses the 2016 election he's never going to be able to catch lightning in a bottle again. Hillary has 4 competent, but difficult years in front of her. In 2020 Paul Ryan should be the republican nominee, and I think he'll win.
 

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In a way it's the best case scenario. Trump loses, and his weird populist wave crashes. Once he loses the 2016 election he's never going to be able to catch lightning in a bottle again. Hillary has 4 competent, but difficult years in front of her. In 2020 Paul Ryan should be the republican nominee, and I think he'll win.
Perhaps, it is really hard for one party to stay in power for a long time, but the population will be even browner in 2020 and presumably, more (D). And if the (R) does blow itself to bits, there maybe three major parties by then.
 

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Perhaps, it is really hard for one party to stay in power for a long time, but the population will be even browner in 2020 and presumably, more (D). And if the (R) does blow itself to bits, there maybe three major parties by then.
I feel like 4 years in the hot seat is all Hillary has in her. She will seem shrill and tired in 2020, compare that to handsome roguish and cool as a cucumber Mr. Paul Ryan, and I think people will turn out for him. I don't know if all those young brown people are going to be chanting "4 more years" for Hillary, and a portion of the young people who decide to vote for her this year will be four years further into life, and that much more conservative.
 
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I feel like 4 years in the hot seat is all Hillary has in her. She will seem shrill and tired in 2020, compare that to handsome roguish and cool as a cucumber Mr. Paul Ryan, and I think people will turn out for him. I don't know if all those young brown people are going to be chanting "4 more years" for Hillary, and a portion of the young people who decide to vote for her this year will be four years further into life, and that much more conservative.
If elected she will not age well. Lol
 

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I feel like 4 years in the hot seat is all Hillary has in her. She will seem shrill and tired in 2020, compare that to handsome roguish and cool as a cucumber Mr. Paul Ryan, and I think people will turn out for him. I don't know if all those young brown people are going to be chanting "4 more years" for Hillary, and a portion of the young people who decide to vote for her this year will be four years further into life, and that much more conservative.
The Bernie fans who fall into line behind her because she's the "next most liberal" will be pretty damned bitter when they see what she's really like.
 

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Paul Ryan, I see, is poking his head above the precipice. Lest we forget, this is someone who would lie about his best marathon time. 'Nuff Said.
 

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If Hillary is as calculating as I think she is, she may pick Kasich as her running mate. More a fan of him than her, personally speaking.
 

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I'm middle of the road on Sorkin, guy's been jerking himself off over syndicated television for decades, but he's nailed the tea party here. I remember when Ron Paul was considered the godfather of the Tea Party. When it changed drastically in between 09-12, you can see how the rise of the radical right has set the table for Trump.
 

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10 Things Trump Supporters Are Too Stupid To Realize

10 Things Trump Supporters Are Too Stupid To Realize

Trump Supporters Aren’t The Sharpest Tools In The Shed

But they sure are tools…

Enough is enough, Trump supporters. We’re done! America has had enough of you. As Hillary Clinton said, “¡Basta!” You refuse to listen to reason, you refuse to absorb any actual facts, and the low-information voter routine got old well before it even began. So I’m going to try and get through to you using the last method we have left: facts, delivered with enough insults, aimed directly toward your willfully ignorant faces, to hopefully get your blood flowing enough to make your brains work properly. And if this doesn’t work, well, at least the rest of us will get to laugh for a little while… you know, before the Fourth Reich begins.

Donald Trump is amassing an army of Neanderthals who only pay enough attention to politics and current events to bitch about how much they hate Obama. If you’re a Trump supporter, then yes, I’m talking about you. You’re an idiot. In fact, it’s worse than that… you’re an idiot by choice.

All of the information known to the human race is available at your fingertips, in the phone in your pocket or on whatever device you’re reading this article, but you choose, free will and all, to ignore anything that doesn’t jive with your preconceived notions. Oh, right, you’re a stupid person… “preconceived notions” are things you think you know before learning something new. Go ahead and pop an aspirin. Feeling better? Good. Let’s continue.


I’m going to lay this out plain as day for you, dummies. Here are ten things that are absolutely, undeniably true. They’re facts. These aren’t my opinions, they aren’t open to interpretation, they aren’t things I’m making up… these are actual, God-honest facts. Take a few minutes with each one. Take an hour if you need it. If we can raise your IQ by a single digit, this will have been a decent success.

Ten Things Trump Supporters Are Too Stupid To Realize

1. Trump Recently Wanted Socialist Universal Health Care. I’m not talking about something that happened ten or twenty years ago, either. Donald Trump’s original health care plan as of September of 2015 — about half a year ago — involved universal health care for every American citizen. For real. I’m not making that up. Here’s an article from Breitbart (a super conservative website you probably trust more than you trust us) that proves it. It wasn’t the first time he pushed for universal health care, either. Here’s what he wrote in 2000:
“I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. It is an unacceptable but accurate fact that the number of uninsured Americans has risen to 42 million. Working out detailed plans will take time. But the goal should be clear: Our people are our greatest asset. We must take care of our own. We must have universal healthcare.” – Donald Trump

2. Trump Used To Support Gun Control. He was big on banning assault weapons, as well as background checks and waiting periods, when he wrote his book back in 2000. Nowadays, he’s more conservative. But you know how people love to rail on Hillary Clinton because she’s a flip-flopper? Donald Trump is a flip-flopper, too.

3. Trump Supported Hillary Clinton! Speaking of Hillary Clinton, guess who was a big supporter of hers until recently? Donald Trump, that’s who. He financially backed her Senate campaigns repeatedly, and made a yuuuge donation to the Clinton Foundation of more than $100,000 as well. Hillary Clinton sat front-row at Trump’s most recent wedding in 2005, too (Bill was at the reception). He’s been in cahoots with the Clintons in the past. I guess you have a new catchphrase now? Trump “Pals Around With Clintons?” Let’s see if that one catches on.

4. “Trump” isn’t really Donald Trump’s Last Name. His actual last name is “Drumpf.” Not kidding. His family changed it right before they came to America. That’s right, the immigrant hater not only employed illegal immigrants, he’s descended of immigrants, too. Of course, you probably are too – and that hasn’t stopped you.

5. Donald Trump Speaks Like A Third-Grader. Do you know why he’s appealing to stupid people? Because he speaks their language. When a bunch of researchers analyzed Trump’s speeches, they found that he uses small words and short sentences, and has the general vocabulary of a CHILD in the third-grade. Maybe the fact that he “talks plain” appeals to you, but shouldn’t a president be smarter than you? Don’t you want a leader who actually thinks? You know… a leader with a brain? A functional brain?

6. You Look Like Nazis. There’s no pleasant way of telling you this, but when you have a booger hanging out of your nose, it’s polite for someone to tell you before you end up getting embarrassed. Donald Trump’s supporters look like Nazis at his rallies. Sticking your right hands up in the air and chanting your allegiance to Donald Trump while all of the people who disagree with him are beaten up and dragged away, all while your charismatic leader rambles about how much he hates people of certain ethnicities… you don’t need to be a genius to see the similarities here, people.

7. Trump Hates Poor People… Including You. Most of Donald Trump’s supporters are poor. You might hope to be wealthy like The Donald someday, but chances are, you won’t be. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, I’m just being honest with you. And because you’re poor, Donald Trump thinks you’re a stupid person who doesn’t deserve to vote. Those are his words, not mine. Do you think poverty equals stupidity? Are you a dumb person just because you don’t have as much money as he does? Well… you’re supporting Trump, so you’re definitely a stupid person, but it’s not because you’re poor (for most of you, it’s because your mom drank during her pregnancy… just keepin’ it 100, folks). But I’m not sure why I’m even going on about this. It’s not as if you can read anyway.

8. Trump Isn’t Actually Explaining His Positions. He talks about how awesome America will be under his reign during his presidency, but he doesn’t really tell us how he’ll do any of this stuff. The only people who hate Donald Trump more than Democrats are Republicans, so he isn’t going to be able to broker these “fantastic deals” he keeps telling us about. And no, Mexico won’t pay for his wall, either. Why would they? Can you actually answer that question using factual information? No, you can’t, because that factual information doesn’t exist. Don’t buy the magic beans, dummies. They don’t do what you think they do.

9. No, Trump Won’t “Keep Us Safe.” I keep hearing Trump supporters claim Trump will “keep us safe.” How exactly will he do that? I mean, he doesn’t detail his plans in any way (which we just covered a moment ago in #8… I know how prone you are to forgetting stuff). He just talks tough and acts tough, but what evidence is there of him being capable of thinking strategically and intellectually? What evidence is there that he can keep us out of wars, or prevent terror attacks from striking American soil? I mean, I play lots of video games… that probably makes me 3000% more qualified to “keep us safe” than Donald Trump is. Me… the guy who writes dick jokes (thanks, by the, to one Donald Trump’s high minded debate style) and other snark on the Internet for a living. I’m definitely not qualified to be president, either, before you ask. Do you people actually ask questions, or do you just take him at his word for no apparent reason whatsoever?

10. Trump Lies To You Constantly. The worst part is, he doesn’t appear to realize he’s doing it. Remember when Donald Trump told you that unemployment was higher than the government claims? Yeah… he was making that up. The real unemployment number is 4.9% (as of this article being written). That’s using the same metric we’ve measured every American President by since the 1940’s. The other, higher number? Yeah… that’s made up. Trump wants you to believe that as much as 50% of the country is unemployed, but there’s literally no proof of that whatsoever. He just pulled that number out of his orange ass, and you’re stupid, so you believed it.

Donald Trump Is Dangerous

I don’t know what else you need to hear, or what other factual information you need to swallow. Any one of these ten things should at least make you second-guess whether you’re backing the right loud, abrasive, douchey orange horse or not. The question is, who among you is smart enough to breath with your mouth closed, let alone use Google and try to ascertain some facts about this ignoramus you want to elect as president?

Donald Trump is the worst kind of idiot there is: a dangerous one. He’s a short-fingered trust-fund baby with a comically absurd hairdo, hell-bent on becoming the president for personal gain, and he’s willing to say whatever stupid people want to hear in order to achieve that goal.

Being stupid is a lifestyle choice, folks. You can be a smart person if you really want to be. All it takes is a small amount of effort… a lot less effort than it takes to join Trump’s Nazi-like “movement,” for sure. All it really takes is one book. No, not that one. A different one.
 

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4. “Trump” isn’t really Donald Trump’s Last Name. His actual last name is “Drumpf.” Not kidding. His family changed it right before they came to America. That’s right, the immigrant hater not only employed illegal immigrants, he’s descended of immigrants, too. Of course, you probably are too – and that hasn’t stopped you.
Your name on your ID is your real name, moron. Some ancestral spelling isn't any more your real name than Australopithecus is your real species.
 

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Trump Supporters Aren’t The Sharpest Tools In The Shed

But they sure are tools…

Enough is enough, Trump supporters. We’re done! America has had enough of you. As Hillary Clinton said, “¡Basta!” You refuse to listen to reason, you refuse to absorb any actual facts, and the low-information voter routine got old well before it even began. So I’m going to try and get through to you using the last method we have left: facts, delivered with enough insults, aimed directly toward your willfully ignorant faces, to hopefully get your blood flowing enough to make your brains work properly. And if this doesn’t work, well, at least the rest of us will get to laugh for a little while… you know, before the Fourth Reich begins.

Donald Trump is amassing an army of Neanderthals who only pay enough attention to politics and current events to bitch about how much they hate Obama. If you’re a Trump supporter, then yes, I’m talking about you. You’re an idiot. In fact, it’s worse than that… you’re an idiot by choice.

All of the information known to the human race is available at your fingertips, in the phone in your pocket or on whatever device you’re reading this article, but you choose, free will and all, to ignore anything that doesn’t jive with your preconceived notions. Oh, right, you’re a stupid person… “preconceived notions” are things you think you know before learning something new. Go ahead and pop an aspirin. Feeling better? Good. Let’s continue.


I’m going to lay this out plain as day for you, dummies. Here are ten things that are absolutely, undeniably true. They’re facts. These aren’t my opinions, they aren’t open to interpretation, they aren’t things I’m making up… these are actual, God-honest facts. Take a few minutes with each one. Take an hour if you need it. If we can raise your IQ by a single digit, this will have been a decent success.

Ten Things Trump Supporters Are Too Stupid To Realize

1. Trump Recently Wanted Socialist Universal Health Care. I’m not talking about something that happened ten or twenty years ago, either. Donald Trump’s original health care plan as of September of 2015 — about half a year ago — involved universal health care for every American citizen. For real. I’m not making that up. Here’s an article from Breitbart (a super conservative website you probably trust more than you trust us) that proves it. It wasn’t the first time he pushed for universal health care, either. Here’s what he wrote in 2000:
“I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. It is an unacceptable but accurate fact that the number of uninsured Americans has risen to 42 million. Working out detailed plans will take time. But the goal should be clear: Our people are our greatest asset. We must take care of our own. We must have universal healthcare.” – Donald Trump

2. Trump Used To Support Gun Control. He was big on banning assault weapons, as well as background checks and waiting periods, when he wrote his book back in 2000. Nowadays, he’s more conservative. But you know how people love to rail on Hillary Clinton because she’s a flip-flopper? Donald Trump is a flip-flopper, too.

3. Trump Supported Hillary Clinton! Speaking of Hillary Clinton, guess who was a big supporter of hers until recently? Donald Trump, that’s who. He financially backed her Senate campaigns repeatedly, and made a yuuuge donation to the Clinton Foundation of more than $100,000 as well. Hillary Clinton sat front-row at Trump’s most recent wedding in 2005, too (Bill was at the reception). He’s been in cahoots with the Clintons in the past. I guess you have a new catchphrase now? Trump “Pals Around With Clintons?” Let’s see if that one catches on.

4. “Trump” isn’t really Donald Trump’s Last Name. His actual last name is “Drumpf.” Not kidding. His family changed it right before they came to America. That’s right, the immigrant hater not only employed illegal immigrants, he’s descended of immigrants, too. Of course, you probably are too – and that hasn’t stopped you.

5. Donald Trump Speaks Like A Third-Grader. Do you know why he’s appealing to stupid people? Because he speaks their language. When a bunch of researchers analyzed Trump’s speeches, they found that he uses small words and short sentences, and has the general vocabulary of a CHILD in the third-grade. Maybe the fact that he “talks plain” appeals to you, but shouldn’t a president be smarter than you? Don’t you want a leader who actually thinks? You know… a leader with a brain? A functional brain?

6. You Look Like Nazis. There’s no pleasant way of telling you this, but when you have a booger hanging out of your nose, it’s polite for someone to tell you before you end up getting embarrassed. Donald Trump’s supporters look like Nazis at his rallies. Sticking your right hands up in the air and chanting your allegiance to Donald Trump while all of the people who disagree with him are beaten up and dragged away, all while your charismatic leader rambles about how much he hates people of certain ethnicities… you don’t need to be a genius to see the similarities here, people.

7. Trump Hates Poor People… Including You. Most of Donald Trump’s supporters are poor. You might hope to be wealthy like The Donald someday, but chances are, you won’t be. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, I’m just being honest with you. And because you’re poor, Donald Trump thinks you’re a stupid person who doesn’t deserve to vote. Those are his words, not mine. Do you think poverty equals stupidity? Are you a dumb person just because you don’t have as much money as he does? Well… you’re supporting Trump, so you’re definitely a stupid person, but it’s not because you’re poor (for most of you, it’s because your mom drank during her pregnancy… just keepin’ it 100, folks). But I’m not sure why I’m even going on about this. It’s not as if you can read anyway.

8. Trump Isn’t Actually Explaining His Positions. He talks about how awesome America will be under his reign during his presidency, but he doesn’t really tell us how he’ll do any of this stuff. The only people who hate Donald Trump more than Democrats are Republicans, so he isn’t going to be able to broker these “fantastic deals” he keeps telling us about. And no, Mexico won’t pay for his wall, either. Why would they? Can you actually answer that question using factual information? No, you can’t, because that factual information doesn’t exist. Don’t buy the magic beans, dummies. They don’t do what you think they do.

9. No, Trump Won’t “Keep Us Safe.” I keep hearing Trump supporters claim Trump will “keep us safe.” How exactly will he do that? I mean, he doesn’t detail his plans in any way (which we just covered a moment ago in #8… I know how prone you are to forgetting stuff). He just talks tough and acts tough, but what evidence is there of him being capable of thinking strategically and intellectually? What evidence is there that he can keep us out of wars, or prevent terror attacks from striking American soil? I mean, I play lots of video games… that probably makes me 3000% more qualified to “keep us safe” than Donald Trump is. Me… the guy who writes dick jokes (thanks, by the, to one Donald Trump’s high minded debate style) and other snark on the Internet for a living. I’m definitely not qualified to be president, either, before you ask. Do you people actually ask questions, or do you just take him at his word for no apparent reason whatsoever?

10. Trump Lies To You Constantly. The worst part is, he doesn’t appear to realize he’s doing it. Remember when Donald Trump told you that unemployment was higher than the government claims? Yeah… he was making that up. The real unemployment number is 4.9% (as of this article being written). That’s using the same metric we’ve measured every American President by since the 1940’s. The other, higher number? Yeah… that’s made up. Trump wants you to believe that as much as 50% of the country is unemployed, but there’s literally no proof of that whatsoever. He just pulled that number out of his orange ass, and you’re stupid, so you believed it.

Donald Trump Is Dangerous

I don’t know what else you need to hear, or what other factual information you need to swallow. Any one of these ten things should at least make you second-guess whether you’re backing the right loud, abrasive, douchey orange horse or not. The question is, who among you is smart enough to breath with your mouth closed, let alone use Google and try to ascertain some facts about this ignoramus you want to elect as president?

Donald Trump is the worst kind of idiot there is: a dangerous one. He’s a short-fingered trust-fund baby with a comically absurd hairdo, hell-bent on becoming the president for personal gain, and he’s willing to say whatever stupid people want to hear in order to achieve that goal.

Being stupid is a lifestyle choice, folks. You can be a smart person if you really want to be. All it takes is a small amount of effort… a lot less effort than it takes to join Trump’s Nazi-like “movement,” for sure. All it really takes is one book. No, not that one. A different one.
What's so funny is that some of the things pointed out are solid platform positions of the Democratic candidates. :lol
 

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That's true, the effort to co-opt the original Tea Party started almost from its formation and used it for political gain. It was a populist movement that was politicized within a couple of years.

The one thing about this election cycle is, it's demonstrating a populist movement against the political establishment on both "sides". People are sick and tired of being screwed over and it shows based on the popularity of both Sanders and Trump. Sanders doesn't really have a prayer against Clinton. Trump is running the Barry playbook from 2008, he has recognized what has a lot of Americans pissed off and is playing to hit. The main difference is that Barry was/is a liberal democrat running as something of a centrist and Trump, in my opinion, is a centrist running as a republican.

It won't matter in the end. If Sanders were elected by some miracle, he would never get his schemes through Congress. He's too extreme for even some democrats and could actually be seen as a threat to their gravy train. If Trump were elected, he might have basically the same problem. Clinton would be more of the same and quite frankly, I think she's just another idiotic puppet. Cruz, Kasich, Romney, Ryan? Meh.

The only thing I like about this election cycle is that it has stirred things up some and has been entertaining to say the least. It's something of a departure from the same old robotic politicians blurting out the same old canned remarks.
 

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Your name on your ID is your real name, moron. Some ancestral spelling isn't any more your real name than Australopithecus is your real species.
Yeah, it may or may not be true but immigrants in the past "Americanizing" their names was pretty common years ago. On one side of my family, my great-grandparents' surname when they emigrated here was Gilovitch but was changed to Gill after they arrived here. On the other side, my great-grandfather and great-uncle emigrated here in 1891. My great-uncle's original first name was Heinrich, which he changed to Henry.
 

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What's the problem with changing your name. I only had one first name on my birth certificate and after 23 years of using my dad's first name I added it legally to my birth certificate.
 

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What's the problem with changing your name. I only had one first name on my birth certificate and after 23 years of using my dad's first name I added it legally to my birth certificate.
Absolutely nothing wrong with it. People using that as a criticism are straight retarded. In fact that whole article was about the level of a slow third grader.

"As Hilary says, 'basta!'" I mean, seriously?
 
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