Official Manziel To Dallas? Griffin To Dallas? Thread

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Am I wrong?
I don't know what you are reading that makes you think a QB at 4 is off the table, I see more leaning toward taking a QB than not.

Nothing that is currently being said points to anything neither the drafting of Martin or Jones could have been gleaned from anything said at this point leading up to those drafts.

If the past is any indication all options are and will be open, especially considering the fact there are no needle movers outside of QB's in the top of this draft.
 

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I really want to take a QB this year. We do have the luxury of having Romo...if healthy. Wentz or Goff will be there...just have to pull the trigger...and I don't want to hear that we stuck with our board and a QB was not in our top 4.
Why, both QB's are not consensus top 4 talents in all mocks currently, I have seen several where either QB have been picked around 10 or lower.

So mock's mean nothing now?
 

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The one caveat to that is Jerry was talked out of it when it came with a price - our top draft pick. This time around, it's an easy argument for Jerry to say, well it won't cost anything so let's take a free look.
True. But I still don't think it will happen, because the drama and trouble surrounding him now is about 1000X higher than it was then, too.
 

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I don't think either RGIII or JFF will be coming here. I think RGIII will be looking for a place where he can start, and Jerry was already talked out of Manziel when his stock was at it's absolute highest. I don't think it'll be that hard to steer Jerry away from him now that he's been leading the league in bad press.
Teh JJ was talked out because of the cost (a 1st round choice) there's no talking Jerruh of a "free" look at this "phenom", as per the press for Jerruh there's no such thing as bad press, any press is good press just make sure you're headlining sportscenter...

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I really want to take a QB this year. We do have the luxury of having Romo...if healthy. Wentz or Goff will be there...just have to pull the trigger...and I don't want to hear that we stuck with our board and a QB was not in our top 4.
I agree, the conditions are ripe for taking someone with a nice ceiling, which is why I dont think it's valid to refuse taking a QB at #4 because there's no Andrew Luck at this point.

1) We don't need a day 1 difference maker to do it all. Most guys taken #1 overall have little to no OL or talent at the skill positions.

2) We have (likely) two years of good Romo left, all things considered. This is plenty of time for a less than perfect, talented QB to come in and really just learn... and get comfortable with the receivers and OL. We don't need someone to come in and be 100% all the time - just someone to come in and focus on getting comfortable at 22 years old.

3) The days of the massive payouts for a first round QB are gone, which means if we get one whos a total disaster, it doesnt set us back five years. You can move onto another one fairly quickly.

4) There's simply nothing like drafting a competent starting QB. Some teams get lucky without doing it in the first round but when you hit on a good QB, you're set for a decade.
 

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Why, both QB's are not consensus top 4 talents in all mocks currently, I have seen several where either QB have been picked around 10 or lower.

So mock's mean nothing now?
What are you even talking about? I have seen many mocks with Goff going to Clev. Not sure where this dumb shit about mocks not meaning anything...part of my rationale for this is McShay mocking Goff to aClev.
 

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I don't know what you are reading that makes you think a QB at 4 is off the table, I see more leaning toward taking a QB than not.

Nothing that is currently being said points to anything neither the drafting of Martin or Jones could have been gleaned from anything said at this point leading up to those drafts.

If the past is any indication all options are and will be open, especially considering the fact there are no needle movers outside of QB's in the top of this draft.
If they sign a vet, I think that pretty much eliminates a QB at 4. Bradie Bottle Lock that shit.
 

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If they sign a vet, I think that pretty much eliminates a QB at 4. Bradie Bottle Lock that shit.
I believe this will be the case also. It's is even crazier to sign a vet and draft a rookie for that same position. I have everything crossed including my testicles hoping the organization opts for taking a QB in the draft.
 

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He is starting to sound more mentally unstable like Randle.
 

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EXCLUSIVE: Manziel's ex claims QB threatened to kill her, himself

Rebecca Lopez, WFAA 5:32 PM. CST February 04, 2016

DALLAS - The ex-girlfriend of NFL quarterback Johnny Manziel told police that the Heisman Trophy winner told her "shut up or I'll kill us both" after forcing her into a car, hitting her, and dragging her by the hair.

On Thursday, News 8 learned harrowing details of last week's alleged assault of Colleen Crowley by Manziel, who is currently on the Cleveland Browns roster, but is not expected to return next season.

After News 8 broke this story Thursday afternoon, Manziel denied wrongdoing in a published report.

“We've been clear about expectations for our players on and off the field,” said Sashi Brown, the Browns executive vice president of football operations, in a statement Tuesday.

“Johnny's continual involvement in incidents that run counter to those expectations undermines the hard work of his teammates and the reputation of our organization,” Browns statement reads. “His status with our team will be addressed when permitted by league rules. We will have no further comment at this time.”

Crowley has told authorities that, according to sources, she is afraid for her safety and has drafted an order of protection to be presented to a Tarrant County district court judge.

Crowley and Manziel dated for two years and lived together for four months before breaking up in December, sources said.

Sources say in her affidavit, Crowley outlines the details of an alleged assault that she said began in Manziel's hotel room in Dallas in the early morning hours of Saturday, Jan. 30.

Sources say on Friday night, Crowley and three friends started the evening off at Victor Tangos, a swanky restaurant in the Knox-Henderson neighborhood in Dallas.

Crowley and friends bar-hopped for a few hours before she met Manziel in his room at Hotel ZaZa in Uptown Dallas.

Sources say while in his hotel room, the two of them argued over another girl. Crowley told police she tried to leave the room, but that Manziel wouldn't let her.

Crowley told police Manziel "restrained" in some manner and "led" her down a back stairway to the valet area.

"I was crying and begged the valet, 'Please don't let him take me. I'm scared for my life!'" she told police. The valet reportedly told her, "I don't know what to do" and let Manziel leave with her.

Sources say Manziel then drove her about a half-mile to her car, which was parked near the Concrete Cowboy bar off Cedar Springs Road. She claims she jumped out of the car and tried to hide from Manziel, but he found her in some nearby bushes.

"He grabbed me by my hair and threw me back into the car and got back in himself," she reportedly told police. "He hit me with his open hand on my left ear for jumping out of the car. I realized immediately that I could not hear out of that ear, and I still cannot today, two days later."

Crowley then reportedly hit Manziel several times, hoping to get out of the car, but, she told police, Manziel "threw me off of him" and she hit her head on the car window. She told police he would not give her her phone.

Sources say Manziel then got on Interstate 30 and began driving to her apartment in Fort Worth. While en route, she claims, she yelled at him, "I hate you!" He allegedly replied that "he was going to drop me off, take my car and go kill himself," sources said.

She says she thought he was on drugs or maybe having a psychotic break. She told police she then began telling him she loved him.

She says at that time Manziel "started laughing" and then reportedly yelled at her to "shut up or I'll kill us both."
She says they finally made it to her Fort Worth apartment where the argument continued.

Crowley claims Manziel became angry, and smashed her phone. He then went outside and started "pacing," she told police. While she was alone, she tried to use her computer to contact her parents through Apple's FaceTime video chat system.

She said Manziel came back into the apartment, checked her computer, and realized she had tried to contact her parents.

"I was in my kitchen, so out of fear for my life, I pulled a knife out of my knife block and advanced toward him," Crowley told police.

"He ran out of the apartment," she said. When she saw him in the parking lot, she said she banged on a neighbor's door and screamed for help. Manziel fled on foot, she told police.

Manziel burst onto the national sports scene in 2012 while a freshman at Texas A&M University. That season, he led the Aggies to 11 wins, including a victory over top-ranked Alabama.

The win over the Crimson Tide and his dazzling play in college football’s toughest conference positioned Manziel to become the first ever freshman to win the Heisman Trophy.

He left Texas A&M after his sophomore season and entered the NFL draft. Manziel’s past legal problems and concerns over his size led NFL executives to question whether he could compete at the professional level.

Manziel wasn’t taken until the 22nd overall pick by the Cleveland Browns. Over his two seasons in the NFL, Manziel has played in 14 games for the Browns.
 

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Looks like Johnny Football is saving HOF dumbass Jerry Jones from himself.

Nice.
 

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If they sign a vet, I think that pretty much eliminates a QB at 4. Bradie Bottle Lock that shit.
Yep, and no doubt Garrett will be pushing hard to draft a potential day 1 starter at another position rather than a QB who may not start until Garrett is out of Dallas. Will likely have the rest of the staff lobbying too since they could all be gone as well if he gets fired.

I just hope that if it comes to that we don't make matters worse by then wasting a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a 2nd/3rd tier QB. If we don't think Goff, Wentz or Lynch have the potential to be solid future starters I don't want to waste premium day 2 picks on a much lesser QB. I'd just prefer at that point to wait til next year, even if it means having to trade up.
 

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EXCLUSIVE: Manziel's ex claims QB threatened to kill her, himself

Rebecca Lopez, WFAA 5:32 PM. CST February 04, 2016

DALLAS - The ex-girlfriend of NFL quarterback Johnny Manziel told police that the Heisman Trophy winner told her "shut up or I'll kill us both" after forcing her into a car, hitting her, and dragging her by the hair.

On Thursday, News 8 learned harrowing details of last week's alleged assault of Colleen Crowley by Manziel, who is currently on the Cleveland Browns roster, but is not expected to return next season.

After News 8 broke this story Thursday afternoon, Manziel denied wrongdoing in a published report.
lol WTF! I can't believe I ever wanted that jackass on our team. Even Jerry is smart enough to not sign him now, right?

Right guys?
 
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Yep, and no doubt Garrett will be pushing hard to draft a potential day 1 starter at another position rather than a QB who may not start until Garrett is out of Dallas. Will likely have the rest of the staff lobbying too since they could all be gone as well if he gets fired.
From what I have seen of the draft, Garrett doesn't really push hard for anything. He mostly just hangs out with Charlotte giving her bedroom eyes.
 

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From what I have seen of the draft, Garrett doesn't really push hard for anything. He mostly just hangs out with Charlotte giving her bedroom eyes.
Looks that way on the draft cam. But I'm sure he'll have his input behind the scenes prior to the draft day.
 

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lets see if any of these stories hold up, I don't believe them because this girl could be one of those crazy cop calling for no reason types
 

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lets see if any of these stories hold up, I don't believe them because this girl could be one of those crazy cop calling for no reason types
Hardy's was similar. Didn't stop the Fake Social Media Outrage from starting before all the facts were in. He is done.
 
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