2016 POTUS Election Thread

2233boys said:

He said he couldn't be fair because he was Mexican. It's racism. It's sad you'd spend all this time defending it.

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It's sad you have no idea what racism is.

Cowboysrock55 said:

It's sad you have no idea what racism is.

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This guy thinks his mentality is superior to everyone's.

Cowboysrock55 said:

It's sad you have no idea what racism is.

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It's funny that even the republican brass are calling this textbook racist. Bill Weld, Paul Ryan, and the majority of the inhabitants of this country thought they what he said was racist. https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/06/08/slim-majority-americans-trump-comments-racist/

But somehow you've got an angle on this that makes you more enlightened than everyone else on racism.

Sounds like you're just as self deluded as the people who nominated Trump.

townsend said:

It's funny that even the republican brass are calling this textbook racist. Bill Weld, Paul Ryan, and the majority of the inhabitants of this country thought they what he said was racist. https://today.yougov.com/news/2016/06/08/slim-majority-americans-trump-comments-racist/

But somehow you've got an angle on this that makes you more enlightened than everyone else on racism.

Sounds like you're just as self deluded as the people who nominated Trump.

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What a large majority of Republicans do agree on, however, is that Donald Trump's comments weren't racist

. It's like you don't even read the article you just look at the title.

Cowboysrock55 said:

What a large majority of Republicans do agree on, however, is that Donald Trump's comments weren't racist

. It's like you don't even read the article you just look at the title.

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Republicans nominated Trump, Republicans are deluded, Republicans do not believe what Trump said was racist.

You, like them, are deluded. I'm sorry I didn't make that more clear.

Some folks are so pious they can't see the ground because their nose is so high in the air.

L.T. Fan said:

Some folks are so pious they can't see the ground because their nose is so high in the air.

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It's called "telling it like it is". I guess republicans want everyone to be PC when it comes time for others criticize them.

townsend said:

It's called "telling it like it is". I guess republicans want everyone to be PC when it comes time for others criticize them.

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Criticism is one thing but arbitrary BS is another. Such as your statement that Republicians are deluded. That's pious and arbitrary BS with no basis except your own mental processing. You seem to think you have the only correct approach to anything. Just do what the rest of us do and spend an opinion and leave it at that.

L.T. Fan said:

Criticism is one thing but arbitrary BS is another. Such as your statement that Republicians are deluded. That's pious and arbitrary BS with no basis except your own mental processing. You seem to think you have the only correct approach to anything. Just do what the rest of us do and spend an opinion and leave it at that.

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My judgement of the republicans is not arbitrary. They nominated Trump. That's a black mark that should live on the party for the next 100 years.

Any organization that can put up that maniac for the nomination, deserves every last milliliter of derision.

townsend said:

My judgement of the republicans is not arbitrary. They nominated Trump. That's a black mark that should live on the party for the next 100 years.

Any organization that can put up that maniac for the nomination, deserves every last milliliter of derision.

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At this point in time that is an assumption since no one can definitely state what kind of leadership he is capable of. Even as brilliant as you think you are it is just so much conjecture. I don't know his capabilities nor does millions of others but somehow you can state with absolute certainty how things are and will be. And you don't see any piety in that? If not then perhaps God could use you to fill in if he wants to take a day off.

L.T. Fan said:

At this point in time that is an assumption since no one can definitely state what kind of leadership he is capable of. Even as brilliant as you think you are it is just so much conjecture. I don't know his capabilities nor does millions of others but somehow you can state with absolute certainty how things are and will be. And you don't see any piety in that? If not then perhaps God could use you to fill in if he wants to take a day off.

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I can't guarantee that the sun will rise tomorrow but I can use the vast amount of reliable information to make a pretty reliable prediction.

There's nothing, absolutely nothing that shows Trumo could be a good president. The fact the the Republicans voted for him in spite of that can't be brushed over.

This you can't prove he'll be bad nonsense is exactly the kind of irrational nonsense I'm exactly accusing the GOP of.

It was Trumps responsibility to prove he would be a good leader, he didn't and it didn't affect his poll numbers whatsoever. Because the GOP base did not vote rationally.

townsend said:

I can't guarantee that the sun will rise tomorrow but I can use the vast amount of reliable information to make a pretty reliable prediction.

There's nothing, absolutely nothing that shows Trumo could be a good president. The fact the the Republicans voted for him in spite of that can't be brushed over.

This you can't prove he'll be bad nonsense is exactly the kind of irrational nonsense I'm exactly accusing the GOP of.

It was Trumps responsibility to prove he would be a good leader, he didn't and it didn't affect his poll numbers whatsoever. Because the GOP base did not vote rationally.

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I am not completely sold on the guy but for anyone to accomplish what he has can't be dismissed a someone who is incompetent. He at least is an example of how to deal with capitalistic systems and be successful and in addition manage an empire. Regardless of all the controversial things surrounding him in this campaign alone he has shown the ability to overcome everyone's predictions that he would fall on his face. And this with no help from the system. Give the devil his dues. That accomplishment displays considerable leadership abilities. Unless you can point to something conclusively that says he can't be an executive and lead, you will just have to do what the rest of us do. Let it play out.

So to say there is nothing to say he can be a good President also says there is nothing to say he can't.

L.T. Fan said:

So to say there is nothing to say he can be a good President also says there is nothing to say he can't.

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This is the problem, right here, this is the irrational thing I'm talking about. You do not nominate someone based on lack of ability to disprove qualification. (And if anyone has ever met that impossible threshold it's Trump)

If someone under you had hired an employee based on the fact that they couldn't prove he wasn't qualified, you would fire the both of them.

GOP isn't taking this appointment seriously, and that's the issue.

Donald Trump Thinks He Can Win California (He Can’t)

Donald Trump Thinks He Can Win California (He Can’t)

By Jim Newell http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/09/donald_trump_is_going_to_blow_all_of_the_gop_s_money.html

Plenty of people have vaguely surmised that Donald Trump’s nomination marks the end of the Republican Party as we knew it. But what is even the mechanism for that? Is there some sort of vehicle through which the death of one of America’s two major parties is processed?

Of course there is: bankruptcy. We don’t mean in any metaphorical chin-stroking sense like “moral bankruptcy” either. We’re talking cold, hard, say-bye-bye Chapter 7 bankruptcy, from which arises a more natural constellation of reactionary tribal entities.


Trump, aka Captain Bankruptcy, met with his finance team, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, and several dozen Republican donor types Thursday at New York City’s Four Seasons to lay out his big plans to crush Crooked Hillary Clinton.



Only one of those states, Pennsylvania, can be understood as “in play.” The others are not, and California and New Jersey are also money holes. You can’t even use the “well, we’ll at least force Clinton to defend there” justification in any of these states. Clinton does not have to defend there. She can watch from Ohio as Donald Trump burns through all of his, the RNC’s, and Republican donors’ money—although it’s hard to imagine that these donors will be inclined to give Trump money after he told them he plans to spend it in California.

There is something about Trump’s personality that makes him believe he needs a marquee media-centric state like California. He probably doesn’t see the typical Republican strategy of cleaning up in the South and the Plains as “flashy” enough for his brand. He’ll think he has to win California because it’s large and beautiful and he owns great properties there, terrific views, some of the best land in the world, really, like you wouldn't believe.

Profound financial mistakes are going to be made with the money Trump is able to siphon from wealthy GOP donors. And that’s most likely how the GOP goes out of business.

townsend said:

This is the problem, right here, this is the irrational thing I'm talking about. You do not nominate someone based on lack of ability to disprove qualification. (And if anyone has ever met that impossible threshold it's Trump)

If someone under you had hired an employee based on the fact that they couldn't prove he wasn't qualified, you would fire the both of them.

GOP isn't taking this appointment seriously, and that's the issue.

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The problem with your argument is that the office of President doesn't need an experienced politician. That's the last thing it needs because the politicians have a dismal record in that office. It's an executive office and needs someone with executive experience. Trump is closer to being qualified as an executive moreso than what is remaining in the race.

townsend said:

By Jim Newell http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/06/09/donald_trump_is_going_to_blow_all_of_the_gop_s_money.html

Plenty of people have vaguely surmised that Donald Trump’s nomination marks the end of the Republican Party as we knew it. But what is even the mechanism for that? Is there some sort of vehicle through which the death of one of America’s two major parties is processed?

Of course there is: bankruptcy. We don’t mean in any metaphorical chin-stroking sense like “moral bankruptcy” either. We’re talking cold, hard, say-bye-bye Chapter 7 bankruptcy, from which arises a more natural constellation of reactionary tribal entities.


Trump, aka Captain Bankruptcy, met with his finance team, RNC Chairman Reince Priebus, and several dozen Republican donor types Thursday at New York City’s Four Seasons to lay out his big plans to crush Crooked Hillary Clinton.



Only one of those states, Pennsylvania, can be understood as “in play.” The others are not, and California and New Jersey are also money holes. You can’t even use the “well, we’ll at least force Clinton to defend there” justification in any of these states. Clinton does not have to defend there. She can watch from Ohio as Donald Trump burns through all of his, the RNC’s, and Republican donors’ money—although it’s hard to imagine that these donors will be inclined to give Trump money after he told them he plans to spend it in California.

There is something about Trump’s personality that makes him believe he needs a marquee media-centric state like California. He probably doesn’t see the typical Republican strategy of cleaning up in the South and the Plains as “flashy” enough for his brand. He’ll think he has to win California because it’s large and beautiful and he owns great properties there, terrific views, some of the best land in the world, really, like you wouldn't believe.

Profound financial mistakes are going to be made with the money Trump is able to siphon from wealthy GOP donors. And that’s most likely how the GOP goes out of business.

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Bankruptcy is part of the legal system. Schmitty can fill you in on this. Trump has never filed bankruptcy. By the way anyone can write an internet blog with opinions.

L.T. Fan said:

The problem with your argument is that the office of President doesn't need an experienced politician. That's the last thing it needs because the politicians have a dismal record in that office. It's an executive office and needs someone with executive experience. Trump is closer to being qualified as an executive moreso than what is remaining in the race.

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That's patently false. From every angle. One of the worst president we've had in the modern era was Herbert Hoover, the least experienced candidate. Also president's like Jimmy Carter, B. Clinton, and W struggled to get up to speed because they hadn't had any experience in Washington. Bill got bullied by the legislator for his entire time in office, Jimmy and W never even figured out how to do the job. Lack of Washington experience deeply affects a president's competence. This is exactly why Kasich should have been the Party's selection, because he had executive and legislative experience.

Also, Trump been a horrid executive. His mortgage company, his casinos, his university,his football league, he ran them into the ground. Meanwhile Hillary as a chair of the Clinton foundation, as a board member for Wal-mart and TCBY, as a partner for her law firm, as chair for legal services corporation, she actually led successful business endeavors.

Trump is a mostly failed business owner who's current (highly debateable) net worth at best kept up for inflation with his inheritance. He's a paid spokesmen and reality TV star who inhereted his money and sells some shit with his name on it. He's basically Kim Kardashian.

townsend said:

That's patently false. From every angle. One of the worst president we've had in the modern era was Herbert Hoover, the least experienced candidate. Also president's like Jimmy Carter, B. Clinton, and W struggled to get up to speed because they hadn't had any experience in Washington. Bill got bullied by the legislator for his entire time in office, Jimmy and W never even figured out how to do the job. Lack of Washington experience deeply affects a president's competence. This is exactly why Kasich should have been the Party's selection, because he had executive and legislative experience.

Also, Trump been a horrid executive. His mortgage company, his casinos, his university,his football league, he ran them into the ground. Meanwhile Hillary as a chair of the Clinton foundation, as a board member for Wal-mart and TCBY, as a partner for her law firm, as chair for legal services corporation, she actually led successful business endeavors.

Trump is a mostly failed business owner who's current (highly debateable) net worth at best kept up for inflation with his inheritance. He's a paid spokesmen and reality TV star who inhereted his money and sells some shit with his name on it. He's basically Kim Kardashian.

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Stick with your politicians then. I have had my fill of them. You left out Obama and that would just about have made them all. Thanks for making my point.

Wow, this is some super unethical stuff. It's also the super shady kind of thing you should be afraid of with Hillary Clinton.

townsend said:

Republicans nominated Trump, Republicans are deluded, Republicans do not believe what Trump said was racist.

You, like them, are deluded. I'm sorry I didn't make that more clear.

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Yes, because there is no bias for Democrats. But hey, why don't you select a name or two from a vast minority and then try to claim that it is the stance by Republican's that his statement is racist. It's almost like you're being exceptionally dishonest on purpose. Or maybe you also just don't understand the definition of racism. Truth be told, I think you know the comments aren't racist. But your hatred for Trump has you making many statements that you know not to be true.