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Kbrown said:
You're ignoring what's been said about the guy's history and the circumstances around the incident, and intentionally reducing it down to 'piece of crap ain't so bad' in order to claim that what we are saying about the guy being a turd who might not oughta be the school's official unofficial #1 fan is so ridiculous as to be unworthy of discussion.

But, whatever. Raider power.
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You are ignoring that the article posted about him being a #1 fan was from 4 years ago.
 
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And, outside of him flipping a bird to a player and calling someone a piece of crap (which only came to light because the player fell near his seat) what separates him from any other fan?
 
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Iamtdg said:
You are ignoring that the article posted about him being a #1 fan was from 4 years ago.
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Yes, I am sure the obnoxiousness started only recently. :lol

And he also gets his apology published by the school. And he's also a major donor who heckles kids so close to him that one finally reacted. Other than that, I guess he's not so different from any other fan.

I'm not exactly sure why you feel you must defend this person.
 
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Kbrown said:
Yes, I am sure the obnoxiousness started only recently. :lol

And he also gets his apology published by the school. And he's also a major donor who heckles kids so close to him that one finally reacted. Other than that, I guess he's not so different from any other fan.

I'm not exactly sure why you feel you must defend this person.
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I'm not defending him. I'm defending what a normal fan might do in a similar situation.

Just because he is a regular attendee makes him extra bad?
 
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PIECE OF CRAP!

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John Lucas III said the guy said crazy stuff before and Desmond Mason said the n word was pretty regular in visits to Lubbock. It is not just this guy...fans in general say and do stupid things to players far too much. That lady flipping off Noah...damn, great restraint there. The guy liked it too...big grin on his face.
 
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Iamtdg said:
I'm not defending him. I'm defending what a normal fan might do in a similar situation.

Just because he is a regular attendee makes him extra bad?
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If you are a 60 year old donor who has been recognized by the school in the past as a staple at the team's games and not a 20-year-old junior who is there to be a crazy college kid, then yes, extra bad and pretty pathetic to gesture and yell at the players.
 
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Carp said:
John Lucas III said the guy said crazy stuff before and Desmond Mason said the n word was pretty regular in visits to Lubbock. It is not just this guy...fans in general say and do stupid things to players far too much. That lady flipping off Noah...damn, great restraint there. The guy liked it too...big grin on his face.
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That was TTU?
 
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Kbrown said:
If you are a 60 year old donor who has been recognized by the school in the past as a staple at the team's games and not a 20-year-old junior who is there to be a crazy college kid, then yes, extra bad and pretty pathetic to gesture and yell at the players.
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I disagree. I don't care how old you are the same fan. I'm only 40. Does that put me in that category?
 
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Iamtdg said:
I disagree. I don't care how old you are the same fan. I'm only 40. Does that put me in that category?
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The guy apologized and said he was wrong, so at this point you are defending a guy who admitted fault.
 
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Iamtdg said:
I disagree. I don't care how old you are the same fan. I'm only 40. Does that put me in that category?
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Yes. It does. You are an adult male with a family and you are connected to the university. You going to games and yelling insults at young amateur athletes would be extra bad and extremely pathetic, and if you brought attention to yourself when you got what you wanted and one reacted, you probably aren't the best person to be at every game.
 
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He's only defending the guy cause he's associated with his school and employer. This reflects poorly on TT and essentially on him so he's trying all he can.
 
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Deuce said:
He's only defending the guy cause he's associated with his school and employer. This reflects poorly on TT and essentially on him so he's trying all he can.
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That's exactly the reason...he would not as adamant about this if it was another school.
 
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I don't think it reflects badly on other fans at TTU. Unless you can show me that it never happens at any other school. There are idiots everywhere and not going to stereotype any other fan because of one nut job.
 
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Well maybe if it happened at the university of Texas. :)
 
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I don't think it reflects badly on other fans at TTU. Unless you can show me that it never happens at any other school. There are idiots everywhere and not going to stereotype any other fan because of one nut job.
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It absolutely happens everywhere. But all other schools aren't in the spotlight this morning.
 
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Rev said:
I don't think it reflects badly on other fans at TTU. Unless you can show me that it never happens at any other school. There are idiots everywhere and not going to stereotype any other fan because of one nut job.
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Not sure why TTU felt compelled to put his official statement on their website...that seems odd.
 
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Deuce said:
It absolutely happens everywhere. But all other schools aren't in the spotlight this morning.
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Only reason its in the spotlight is because he had court side seats. Go up in the stands and its a story everywhere. I'm not saying its not a blemish on Tech because it is. They chose to promote that individual. Just saying the fans shouldn't be lumped into it.
 
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