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Wasn't necessarily talking about the debate. The whole situation itself. Maybe we can get somebody that isn't an embarrassment someday.
Nice thought but the public service elected official process has been fraught with unsavory characters for as long as I can remember and history indicates it has always been so. Get past this one just in time to crank up the next one.
 

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But it's insane to vote for a man standing trial for a RICO case as an alternative to "corruptible" politicians. That's why Trump supporters have earned a lot of well deserved contempt. No evaluation of Trump's ethics as a business man points to him being in any way less corrupt than a typical politician.

He's already used political influences on known corrupt asshole Ken Paxton to save him from getting prosecuted in TX. There's some talk about his campaign manager taking money from Russian interests. Most importantly, unlike every other major presidential candidate, he won't release his tax returns which means he's earned less trust than every typical politician who's willing to be more transparent.
It's insane to vote for a chronically corrupt habitual liar like Hillary. But I'm sure you will.
 

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Fine by me but odds are that more articles will make their way to the thread. Dry up that activity and it will be a breeze. Remember though it is a few months until election so I'm betting the the snipping with articles will continue.
So your idea is to just ignore what Trump says and does?

You act like I am making stuff up.
 

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So your idea is to just ignore what Trump says and does?

You act like I am making stuff up.
Try balanced reporting. Submitted Clinton's shortcomings and corruption activities. You are the Google expert I am sure you can find both parties.
 

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Try balanced reporting. Submitted Clinton's shortcomings and corruption activities. You are the Google expert I am sure you can find both parties.
I'm not sure why he wastes so much time finding every random negative article about Trump he can find. I equate it to all of Bipo's Meme's. Just a bunch of scrolling past with no real substance.
 

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It's insane to vote for a chronically corrupt habitual liar like Hillary. But I'm sure you will.
Compared to Trump, Hillary's a Girl Scout. She's had an email server that was negligently used, and a DNC that failed to be objective while she was running against an independent. Trump has been sued 3500 times, will stand trial for racketeering, and unlike Clinton, won't release his tax returns.

Any sane evaluation of the candidates shows that Hillary's worst quality (her trustworthiness) is still miles ahead of Trump. She just also happens to be even better at business, the economy, foreign policy, national security, and displaying an IQ above 70.
 

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Trump has been sued 3500 times, will stand trial for racketeering, and unlike Clinton, won't release his tax returns.
I've never heard what essentially is a false advertising civil lawsuit sound so horrific in my life. But it's a good choice of wording since most people associate racketeering with very serious criminal charges. :lol
 

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I've never heard what essentially is a false advertising civil lawsuit sound so horrific in my life. But it's a good choice of wording since most people associate racketeering with very serious criminal charges. :lol
"Best cup of coffee in NY" is false advertising. When your defrauding people for tens of thousands of dollars it's something a little more severe. But it's a fair point that this is a civil trial, so even if he loses and is labeled a "racketeer" it won't mean very much, other than he might have to pay some money back.

Still, if Hillary get knocked for being treated with kid gloves by the FBI, Trump needs to be called out for having corrupt politicians run interference for him so he wasn't prosecuted.
 

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I've never heard what essentially is a false advertising civil lawsuit sound so horrific in my life. But it's a good choice of wording since most people associate racketeering with very serious criminal charges. :lol
Yes and Hillary would have been indicted on criminal charges if the system had not fixed it for her but that's okay and doesn't count. It's all selective conscientious exercises.
 

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Yes and Hillary would have been indicted on criminal charges if the system had not fixed it for her but that's okay and doesn't count. It's all selective conscientious exercises.
I think it's a little presumptive to say that Hillary would have definitely been indicted. Especially all information has shown that no real classified information was sent, or at least has failed to find any. It seems like it would have been a pretty hard case to prosecute. Which (along with her being a fish too big to get into the boat) disincentivized anyone from wanting to pursue it further.
 

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"Best cup of coffee in NY" is false advertising. When your defrauding people for tens of thousands of dollars it's something a little more severe. But it's a fair point that this is a civil trial, so even if he loses and is labeled a "racketeer" it won't mean very much, other than he might have to pay some money back.
All it is about it getting more money in the lawsuit then they would get otherwise. That's really all the "racketeering" portion matters for. And the problem is, this wasn't a scam where people got nothing in return for their money. They just didn't get the quality of education that they expected for their money. Thus false advertising.

Hilary's biggest scandals on the other hand are criminal in nature as opposed to civil.
 

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I think it's a little presumptive to say that Hillary would have definitely been indicted. Especially all information has shown that no real classified information was sent, or at least has failed to find any. It seems like it would have been a pretty hard case to prosecute. Which (along with her being a fish too big to get into the boat) disincentivized anyone from wanting to pursue it further.
It would have been hard because of who she is but a lot of lesser folks have been prosecuted with less charges. As I said it is a selective process. To use your approach, someone would have to be brain dead to not see that it was rigged through Bill's "accidental" meeting with the Attorney General who happens to be the boss of the FBI director who for some stranger reason took it upon himself to conclude it wasn't proscuetable which is not his call to make but did spare the Attorney General the grief of having to review the charges.
 

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All it is about it getting more money in the lawsuit then they would get otherwise. That's really all the "racketeering" portion matters for. And the problem is, this wasn't a scam where people got nothing in return for their money. They just didn't get the quality of education that they expected for their money. Thus false advertising.

Hilary's biggest scandals on the other hand are criminal in nature as opposed to civil.
Well that depends on what you count as a "scandal". if it's having a criminal investigation than, as far as I can tell Hillary isn't part of that. If it's just the worst accusation that exists against you, Trump's been accused of rape 3 times. He also happened to contributed 35k to Greg Abbott right before TX dropped it's lawsuit against him (for Trump U) so that seems like straight up bribery, which is surprisingly, still illegal in TX.
 

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Compared to Trump, Hillary's a Girl Scout. She's had an email server that was negligently used, and a DNC that failed to be objective while she was running against an independent. Trump has been sued 3500 times, will stand trial for racketeering, and unlike Clinton, won't release his tax returns.

Any sane evaluation of the candidates shows that Hillary's worst quality (her trustworthiness) is still miles ahead of Trump. She just also happens to be even better at business, the economy, foreign policy, national security, and displaying an IQ above 70.
That's funny. Trump would run circles around her in dealing with business and the economy. Her tenure as Sec of State helped created the Arab Spring and M.E. vacuum that helped result in the rise of ISIS. Her open border stance is a major risk of national security not to mention her using her private server which got hacked resulting in classified info being stolen.
 

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Yes and Hillary would have been indicted on criminal charges if the system had not fixed it for her but that's okay and doesn't count. It's all selective conscientious exercises.
Yep. Obama's handpicked AG Loretta Lynch wasn't going to allow any charges to be brought against her. DOJ is a joke and has become a partisan dept.
 

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That's funny. Trump would run circles around her in dealing with business and the economy. Her tenure as Sec of State helped created the Arab Spring and M.E. vacuum that helped result in the rise of ISIS. Her open border stance is a major risk of national security not to mention her using her private server which got hacked resulting in classified info being stolen.
You can't be so ignorant to think Trump could run circles around anyone. TCBY, Walmart, those were real, successful businesses Hillary was on the board of. Meanwhile Trump ran shitty casinos and lost his investors 90 cents on the dollar in his only attempt at a publicly traded company. The only thing he can run is a scam. Which is why he has been sued 3500 times. It's why he has at best made up for inflation from his daddies inheretence. It's why he's tanked so many businesses.

Trump thinks he can renegotiate the national debt. It's not just irresponsible to say that stuff, it's irresponsible for someone like you to even tentatively support a moron who would destroy the economy if he had the opportunity.

Obviously American contribution to the Arab Spring is not negligible. But blaming a Bush negotiated withdrawal on the Obama administration is ridiculous. All of that pales in comparison to a man that asked in 3 times in 1 briefing why we couldn't use nukes, threatened our withdrawal from NATO, and didn't even fucking Know Russians were in the Ukraine. Hillary's a mediocre Secretary of State that made mistakes. Trump is a man who's a miserable failure at everything but inheriting money. Assuming Trump is somehow an improvement the just because he's never had the opportunity to botch something on that scale, is like assuming Trump would be a better surgeon than a bad surgeon since he's never performed surgery before.
 

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You can't be so ignorant to think Trump could run circles around anyone. TCBY, Walmart, those were real, successful businesses Hillary was on the board of. Meanwhile Trump ran shitty casinos and lost his investors 90 cents on the dollar in his only attempt at a publicly traded company. The only thing he can run is a scam. Which is why he has been sued 3500 times. It's why he has at best made up for inflation from his daddies inheretence. It's why he's tanked so many businesses.

Trump thinks he can renegotiate the national debt. It's not just irresponsible to say that stuff, it's irresponsible for someone like you to even tentatively support a moron who would destroy the economy if he had the opportunity.

Obviously American contribution to the Arab Spring is not negligible. But blaming a Bush negotiated withdrawal on the Obama administration is ridiculous. All of that pales in comparison to a man that asked in 3 times in 1 briefing why we couldn't use nukes, threatened our withdrawal from NATO, and didn't even fucking Know Russians were in the Ukraine. Hillary's a mediocre Secretary of State that made mistakes. Trump is a man who's a miserable failure at everything but inheriting money. Assuming Trump is somehow an improvement the just because he's never had the opportunity to botch something on that scale, is like assuming Trump would be a better surgeon than a bad surgeon since he's never performed surgery before.
Maybe you could buy this miserable failure out. :lol
 

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I'm not sure why he wastes so much time finding every random negative article about Trump he can find. I equate it to all of Bipo's Meme's. Just a bunch of scrolling past with no real substance.

Because it's funny and ridiculous how a presidential candidate continues to say and do the things he does.

That "doctors note" should be disqualifying on its own.
 

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Try balanced reporting. Submitted Clinton's shortcomings and corruption activities. You are the Google expert I am sure you can find both parties.
I am not a reporter or claim to be balanced when it comes to Trump.

I think he is a joke and wil continue to illustrate that.
 
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