Week 15 Gameday Chatter | Buccaneers vs Cowboys | 12/18/2016

Simpleton said:

Do you guys think it's good that Elliott is averaging 5 YPC 14 games into the season?

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Iamtdg said:

I swear some people are going to bitch no matter what. For years we bitched and bellyached about Romo taking too many risks and not being careful with the ball. We finally get a QB that does protect the ball and bitching ensues about him not taking enough risks. We are 12-2, for christ sake. Enjoy it. Jesus Christ.

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Texas Ace said:

Goes to show that in your blind loyalty, you're missing the entire point which is what you do when get overly committed to something and remain stubborn.

We all love how the guy has limited his mistakes and protected the football. You know at the very least that I have even if you disagree with Ravi.

But a big reason why he has protected the ball is because he's been a bit conservative and he's picked and chosen his spots. That worked last night and it's worked at other times, but I don't think that's gonna work in Janaury against the Seahawks or Giants, nor against a team like the Falcons or Packers who have the ability to hang 30 points on us.

Dak along with this coaching staff are going to need to be more aggressive, albeit calculated, and start showing teams things on film that keep them honest.

We can't just decide to open it up in the middle of a game where we're struggling or defenses will tee off on us, just like the Giants did last week.

Surely you can understand the logic in this, correct?

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Iamtdg said:

I understand the logic. I just don't agree with it. We already beat the Packers, in their house using this exact method. And, our defense is playing even better now than they were then.

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Texas Ace said:

Goes to show that in your blind loyalty, you're missing the entire point which is what you do when get overly committed to something and remain stubborn.

We all love how the guy has limited his mistakes and protected the football. You know at the very least that I have even if you disagree with Ravi.

But a big reason why he has protected the ball is because he's been a bit conservative and he's picked and chosen his spots. That worked last night and it's worked at other times, but I don't think that's gonna work in Janaury against the Seahawks or Giants, nor against a team like the Falcons or Packers who have the ability to hang 30 points on us.

Dak along with this coaching staff are going to need to be more aggressive, albeit calculated, and start showing teams things on film that keep them honest.

We can't just decide to open it up in the middle of a game where we're struggling or defenses will tee off on us, just like the Giants did last week.

Surely you can understand the logic in this, correct?

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Texas Ace said:

We all love how the guy has limited his mistakes and protected the football. You know at the very least that I have even if you disagree with Ravi.

But a big reason why he has protected the ball is because he's been a bit conservative and he's picked and chosen his spots. That worked last night and it's worked at other times, but I don't think that's gonna work in Janaury against the Seahawks or Giants, nor against a team like the Falcons or Packers who have the ability to hang 30 points on us.

Dak along with this coaching staff are going to need to be more aggressive, albeit calculated, and start showing teams things on film that keep them honest.

We can't just decide to open it up in the middle of a game where we're struggling or defenses will tee off on us, just like the Giants did last week.

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Texas Ace said:

That Packers team was playing nothing like the one that is on fire now, but I'm more concerned about facing another good defense in the playoffs like Seattle.

It's that type of game where settling for short stuff and being conservative is going to result in a loss.

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Carp said:

The Packers are on fire, yet they were taken to the end by a Bears team led by their 3rd string QB. I guess your definition of on fire is different than mine.

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VA Cowboy said:

We are going to have to find a balance between protecting the ball and sustaining drives turning them into TD's. I don't think we need to take multiple deep shots down the field, but maybe something more than the half dozen screen passes that net 1-2 yards would be nice. I'd like more medium range slant passes, or at least have receivers run routes beyond the sticks on 3rd down instead of the constant 3 yard passes on 3rd and 8.

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Carp said:

This is silly. You don't know how to handle the Cowboys success, so you look for things to bring you back into the comfort zone of a tensed up butthole. Jesus Christ...this is as fun of a team as we have had since the 90s. Yet, let's find a way to not enjoy it.

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Texas Ace said:

That Packers team was playing nothing like the one that is on fire now, but I'm more concerned about facing another good defense in the playoffs like Seattle.

It's that type of game where settling for short stuff and being conservative is going to result in a loss.

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Carp said:

I was quite happy that it was our defense that carried us to this win. Hell, Irving was as dominant as I have seen a defensive player play for us in a long time. I should caveat that by saying that Lee has produced over and over this year, so maybe I am used to that, but Irving was dominant.

The offense was excellent as well. A couple of bad penalties really derailed us at times.

The double reverse to Whitehead sucked big ass dicks. We got a little full of ourselves there and just executed horribly. It would have been nice to make a big play out of that end around, but I think it is more demoralizing to a team when you line up, they know you are going to run, and you do it anyways. Whitehead fucked up last week and missed a meeting, but clearly we were trying to get him involved. I would have rather just let that happen organically instead of forcing it to him.

When we signed Frederick to that big deal I did not think he was the best center in the NFL. Wrong...he is the clearly the best in my mind. Watching him and Martin push the DT back into the LB...spank worthy.

Dak was excellent last night. All the chirping and whatnot was dumb to begin with. He was confident in the pocket...and I did not really mind the sacks he took. It happens.

The defense is fun to watch...they hustle, hit hard, and are pretty sure tacklers.

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Texas Ace said:

Not true at all.

I've enjoyed this season and have been positive all year long, but if you can't see how our conservative passing game could hurt us in the playoffs, then I don't know what else to tell you.

Or you just think the Vikes and Giants games were just bad luck?

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dallen said:

I probably reacted a little harshly to Dak getting sacked. I would like to see anticipate the pressure a little sooner and be ready to run or throw the ball away, but I think that will come with experience. Even if not he isn't terrible at it. Romo (pre-crippled old man Romo anyway) has us all a little spoiled

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dallen said:

I probably reacted a little harshly to Dak getting sacked. I would like to see anticipate the pressure a little sooner and be ready to run or throw the ball away, but I think that will come with experience. Even if not he isn't terrible at it. Romo (pre-crippled old man Romo anyway) has us all a little spoiled

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