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I guess I mean the reason why most people who smoke a few times never become a regular smoker. I've smoked before like the majority of people I know, but just sort of grew up and stopped like most of my friends. A few still do but the majority don't.
I had a pretty strong period in my early twenties where I guess you could say I was a pothead. I still held down a full time job and went to college.

I also shared part of my stash to a poor old German broad going through chemo because she could not get legal weed.

I have to say that was one of the more gratifying things in my life that I could actually share with her to get her through what doctors couldn't. It was humane.

Then I got older, got more busy and then it disappeared out of my life. No withdrawls, nada. It just became a hassle to acquire and no longer had the thrill.

All in all, I think those who are afraid of the dangers of pot, really don't get the real issue.

Alcohol has caused me a shit ton more issues in my life than weed could ever do.

Anything that is bad for you can be abused and used as a crutch.

This nation, right now, is filled with losers on "disability" because they can't handle real life. They get paid.

Yet they see a doctor and get prescribed opiods and also anti-depressants.

A lot of this has to do with the drug companies.

This is YUGE business. There is a reason dick pill commercials dominate our airwaves.

I can tell you right now, Phizer's worst fucking nightmare is legalized pot. That means less money for them and Zoloft is suddenly not necessary.
 

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GATEWAY DRUG!!! WHAT ABOUT THE KIDS???!!! News flash, a shitload of teenagers smoke weed. I do not condone that at all but it is true. And just because they smoke weed doesn't mean that they are going to evolve in heroin, crack, or meth addicts. Some will, but generally those that do have much deeper issues that take them to those places. They were going to get there regardless of if they smoked a joint once in a while or not.

BTW I am not directing this at you as if I am telling you something you didn't already know Booze, I just quoted your post and started typing.
9/10 times the "gateway" things comes back to other issues. There are a lot of things involved with addiction and it is not easy to predict behavior.

I have never met anyone who smoked weed and then said, "okay, let me try heroin or coke next!" They usually had other issues in their life that led them to that point. If you want to avoid "Gateways" then go back to Prohibition.

Different drugs, different effects. The state of the user is the biggest issue, especially when the drug is not certified as addictive.

If the "gateway" is simply wanting the next high, the next big thing, then anything that gives you a buzz is dangerous.

Especially alcohol.

Give a drunk that has never smoked weed, I bet they never go back.

I can tell you with great confidence, in an alternate universe where Spock has a goatee, my screenname is budman or weedman or some such shit.
 

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A lot of this has to do with the drug companies.

This is YUGE business. There is a reason dick pill commercials dominate our airwaves.

I can tell you right now, Phizer's worst fucking nightmare is legalized pot. That means less money for them and Zoloft is suddenly not necessary.
This is true and it's why a simple popular vote on the issue would pass legalization in most states but yet for some reason we don't have that.
 

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GATEWAY DRUG!!!
This is always especially funny to me. Like when someone is prescribed a percocet we don't call that a gateway drug even though it is highly addictive and leads to abuse of other very similar drugs. But because it's legal, it never gets that label. Yet weed gets this label of "gateway drug" which is nothing but government propaganda to prevent people from smoking weed in the first place.
 

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This is true and it's why a simple popular vote on the issue would pass legalization in most states but yet for some reason we don't have that.
The real reason is that the medical drug industry is what carries more weight in policy than tobacco and is even pushing alcohol.

No no, no hard liquor ads, but yeah we can advertise every fucking pill we want.

Their lobbyists are silent but powerful.
 

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This is always especially funny to me. Like when someone is prescribed a percocet we don't call that a gateway drug even though it is highly addictive and leads to abuse of other very similar drugs. But because it's legal, it never gets that label. Yet weed gets this label of "gateway drug" which is nothing but government propaganda to prevent people from smoking weed in the first place.
Just fired this stupid shit at work the other day. He was caught selling Zoloft on camera. Plain as day.

This response after he confessed, "this ain't no big deal. I was just trying to hook people up."

Then after we informed him the cops were on the way, "man, look, it is not like I am selling marijuana. That shit is everywhere here, but I made more money off this."
 

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All in all, I think those who are afraid of the dangers of pot, really don't get the real issue.

Alcohol has caused me a shit ton more issues in my life than weed could ever do.

Anything that is bad for you can be abused and used as a crutch.
Boom. Well said.
 

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This is always especially funny to me. Like when someone is prescribed a percocet we don't call that a gateway drug even though it is highly addictive and leads to abuse of other very similar drugs. But because it's legal, it never gets that label. Yet weed gets this label of "gateway drug" which is nothing but government propaganda to prevent people from smoking weed in the first place.
No doubt about it.
 

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I had a pretty strong period in my early twenties where I guess you could say I was a pothead. I still held down a full time job and went to college.

I also shared part of my stash to a poor old German broad going through chemo because she could not get legal weed.

I have to say that was one of the more gratifying things in my life that I could actually share with her to get her through what doctors couldn't. It was humane.

Then I got older, got more busy and then it disappeared out of my life. No withdrawls, nada. It just became a hassle to acquire and no longer had the thrill.

All in all, I think those who are afraid of the dangers of pot, really don't get the real issue.

Alcohol has caused me a shit ton more issues in my life than weed could ever do.

Anything that is bad for you can be abused and used as a crutch.

This nation, right now, is filled with losers on "disability" because they can't handle real life. They get paid.

Yet they see a doctor and get prescribed opiods and also anti-depressants.

A lot of this has to do with the drug companies.

This is YUGE business. There is a reason dick pill commercials dominate our airwaves.

I can tell you right now, Phizer's worst fucking nightmare is legalized pot. That means less money for them and Zoloft is suddenly not necessary.

Weed for cancer patients should be the FIRST drug prescribed. Like, antibiotics are prescribed for infections. It should be automatic.

My wife has taken every drug under to sun and nothing has helped her more. Suck it, NSA!!
 

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Just fired this stupid shit at work the other day. He was caught selling Zoloft on camera. Plain as day.

This response after he confessed, "this ain't no big deal. I was just trying to hook people up."

Then after we informed him the cops were on the way, "man, look, it is not like I am selling marijuana. That shit is everywhere here, but I made more money off this."

That is stoopid because Zoloft doesnt even chill you are get you high. It takes about 3-6 weeks to even take effect and at that point it s Moly makes a truly depressed person feel normal. During the ramp up period there are horrible side effects. It's not a sedative by any means. Only an idiot tries to abuse it
 

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Could This Scary Finding Lead to Tighter Marijuana Regulations?

Medical marijuana could be more dangerous than you think. Could more regulations be on the way that impact marijuana stocks?

Keith Speights
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Feb 26, 2017 at 9:03AM
First, do no harm.

This hallowed principle of medicine has been followed for centuries. But some recent findings by researchers at University of California at Davis have raised concerns that some medical marijuana might be quite harmful -- and even fatal.*

Could these scary findings lead to tighter medical marijuana regulations? And what could this mean for marijuana stocks?


A closer look at medical marijuana

An experience with one of his cancer patients led Dr. Joseph Tuscano to investigate the safety of medical marijuana. The patient had been told by a dispensary that inhaling an aerosolized marijuana blend would be safer than smoking. However, the patient developed a rare fungal lung infection after using the product. This infection wasn't curable, and the young man ultimately died.

Tuscano, a professor of internal medicine in the Division of Hematology and Oncology at UC Davis, teamed up with others at UC Davis to learn more about the risks associated with medical marijuana.*However, the researchers ran into a roadblock. The U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) doesn't allow marijuana to be used in research in institutions that receive federal funding. Because UC Davis does, the team had to perform all testing in a private lab.

The researchers used genomic analysis on 20 medical marijuana samples obtained from Northern California dispensaries. What they found was frightening. Multiple microorganisms were detected in the samples, including several that can lead to severe and even fatal lung infections. The team concluded that smoking, vaping, or inhaling aerosolized marijuana could pose serious risks for patients, especially those with weakened immune systems.

Regulations in flux

Because a large number of states have legalized medical marijuana, many patients and even some physicians might think that certain safety standards are in place. That's not the case, at least not on a federal level. Federal laws still prohibit the sale of marijuana, so there aren't any federal safety regulations in place, according to the research team.
However, that doesn't mean that states can't have their own safety regulations for medical marijuana. In fact, California's Medical Cannabis Regulation and Safety Act does have components that require several state agencies to establish regulations and standards for medical marijuana.*

A major problem, though, is that these agencies are still in the process of developing regulations. The California Department of Food and Agriculture, for example, won't even begin to issue licenses for medical marijuana growers until 2018.

It also seems likely that the federal government will become more involved. This doesn't mean that the Justice Department will crack down on the sale of medical marijuana. We could instead see movement by the*U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to establish federal safety standards, especially if current congressional efforts to pass legislation prioritizing state marijuana laws above federal laws are successful.

Potential impact of tighter regulations

Companies such as GW Pharmaceuticals (NASDAQ:GWPH)*that develop cannabis-based drugs shouldn't be impacted by any increased regulations for medical marijuana. The active ingredient in GW's experimental epilepsy drug Epidiolex is cannabidiol, which is a chemical extracted from cannabis. GW Pharmaceuticals already must follow strict FDA regulations regarding the manufacture of cannabidiol.

However, it's possible that new rules could affect medical marijuana suppliers by requiring them to implement more stringent processes.*Smaller marijuana growers would likely be affected more drastically than major producers like*Medical Marijuana, Inc. (NASDAQOTH:MJNA).*

Medical Marijuana touts several safety and quality checks that are already in place for at least one of its*top products, Real Scientific Hemp Oil (RSHO) Gold. RSHO Gold is manufactured in Europe and tested prior to exporting to the U.S. After being inspected when imported, the product is sent to an accredited food safety testing lab before packaging and shipping to U.S. customers.

Could marijuana stocks be impacted by tighter regulations? Probably not much. Companies like Medical Marijuana would likely pass along any added expenses associated with meeting new quality standards to customers.

If new regulations were especially onerous, though, smaller growers with less capital could be forced out of business. The shakeout of smaller players could benefit larger marijuana growers.**

In the meantime...

Until more effective safety regulations are in place, one of the lead UC Davis researchers, George Thompson III, issued a warning for patients. Thompson said, "Because microorganisms known to cause serious infections in immunocompromised patients were found to be common on marijuana, we strongly advise patients to avoid it."

The research team also stated that if patients did use medical marijuana, consuming the drug in baked goods was probably the best option. Although they weren't sure that such use was completely safe, they suspected that the high temperatures from cooking could kill most microorganisms present in the marijuana.

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I never really thought about the industry if things get more legal. This actually makes me kind of look into investing there. But of course, I think Trump will fuck that up too.
 

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Could This Scary Finding Lead to Tighter Marijuana Regulations?

Medical marijuana could be more dangerous than you think. Could more regulations be on the way that impact marijuana stocks?

Keith Speights
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Feb 26, 2017 at 9:03AM
First, do no harm.

This hallowed principle of medicine has been followed for centuries. But some recent findings by researchers at University of California at Davis have raised concerns that some medical marijuana might be quite harmful -- and even fatal.*

Could these scary findings lead to tighter medical marijuana regulations? And what could this mean for marijuana stocks?


A closer look at medical marijuana

An experience with one of his cancer patients led Dr. Joseph Tuscano to investigate the safety of medical marijuana. The patient had been told by a dispensary that inhaling an aerosolized marijuana blend would be safer than smoking. However, the patient developed a rare fungal lung infection after using the product. This infection wasn't curable, and the young man ultimately died.

Tuscano, a professor of internal medicine in the Division of Hematology and Oncology at UC Davis, teamed up with others at UC Davis to learn more about the risks associated with medical marijuana.*However, the researchers ran into a roadblock. The U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) doesn't allow marijuana to be used in research in institutions that receive federal funding. Because UC Davis does, the team had to perform all testing in a private lab.

The researchers used genomic analysis on 20 medical marijuana samples obtained from Northern California dispensaries. What they found was frightening. Multiple microorganisms were detected in the samples, including several that can lead to severe and even fatal lung infections. The team concluded that smoking, vaping, or inhaling aerosolized marijuana could pose serious risks for patients, especially those with weakened immune systems.

Regulations in flux

Because a large number of states have legalized medical marijuana, many patients and even some physicians might think that certain safety standards are in place. That's not the case, at least not on a federal level. Federal laws still prohibit the sale of marijuana, so there aren't any federal safety regulations in place, according to the research team.
However, that doesn't mean that states can't have their own safety regulations for medical marijuana. In fact, California's Medical Cannabis Regulation and Safety Act does have components that require several state agencies to establish regulations and standards for medical marijuana.*

A major problem, though, is that these agencies are still in the process of developing regulations. The California Department of Food and Agriculture, for example, won't even begin to issue licenses for medical marijuana growers until 2018.

It also seems likely that the federal government will become more involved. This doesn't mean that the Justice Department will crack down on the sale of medical marijuana. We could instead see movement by the*U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to establish federal safety standards, especially if current congressional efforts to pass legislation prioritizing state marijuana laws above federal laws are successful.

Potential impact of tighter regulations

Companies such as GW Pharmaceuticals (NASDAQ:GWPH)*that develop cannabis-based drugs shouldn't be impacted by any increased regulations for medical marijuana. The active ingredient in GW's experimental epilepsy drug Epidiolex is cannabidiol, which is a chemical extracted from cannabis. GW Pharmaceuticals already must follow strict FDA regulations regarding the manufacture of cannabidiol.

However, it's possible that new rules could affect medical marijuana suppliers by requiring them to implement more stringent processes.*Smaller marijuana growers would likely be affected more drastically than major producers like*Medical Marijuana, Inc. (NASDAQOTH:MJNA).*

Medical Marijuana touts several safety and quality checks that are already in place for at least one of its*top products, Real Scientific Hemp Oil (RSHO) Gold. RSHO Gold is manufactured in Europe and tested prior to exporting to the U.S. After being inspected when imported, the product is sent to an accredited food safety testing lab before packaging and shipping to U.S. customers.

Could marijuana stocks be impacted by tighter regulations? Probably not much. Companies like Medical Marijuana would likely pass along any added expenses associated with meeting new quality standards to customers.

If new regulations were especially onerous, though, smaller growers with less capital could be forced out of business. The shakeout of smaller players could benefit larger marijuana growers.**

In the meantime...

Until more effective safety regulations are in place, one of the lead UC Davis researchers, George Thompson III, issued a warning for patients. Thompson said, "Because microorganisms known to cause serious infections in immunocompromised patients were found to be common on marijuana, we strongly advise patients to avoid it."

The research team also stated that if patients did use medical marijuana, consuming the drug in baked goods was probably the best option. Although they weren't sure that such use was completely safe, they suspected that the high temperatures from cooking could kill most microorganisms present in the marijuana.

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I never really thought about the industry if things get more legal. This actually makes me kind of look into investing there. But of course, I think Trump will fuck that up too.
I think it is a growth industry only more states are going to follow the legalization route.
 

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I think it is a growth industry only more states are going to follow the legalization route.
I think there is a lot of money to be made in the pot industry in the very near future. Hopefully the corrupt governments don't prevent everyone from having a chance at that money.
 

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The degree to which Jeff Sessions is out of touch and naive about marijuana is astonishing. He is strongly opposed to the increasingly tolerant attitude towards it by the general public as well as lawmakers, and that is fine if that is what he believes. But he has said some incredibly dumb things about it.

Last year he actually said "Good people don't smoke marijuana". Now, if you want to say "Smoking marijuana is not good for people" you at least have a leg to stand on. But to say "good people don't smoke marijuana" indicates that he has no idea of the scope and range of people who regularly or occasionally smoke weed. Does he think it is nothing but criminals and degenerates? Or does he think that no matter how good of a person one may otherwise be, that is all cancelled out by the fact that they use marijuana?

He recently said that he believes using medical marijuana to treat heroin addiction would be the equivalent to "trading one life-wrecking dependency for another that is only slightly less awful". This is the Attorney General speaking? Because to suggest that marijuana is anywhere near the same ballpark as heroin is patently ridiculous. He is basically "Reefer Madness" level clueless. Unbelievable. I guess I should not be surprised but you'd think the Attorney General would be more informed than this.
 
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The degree to which Jeff Sessions is out of touch and naive about marijuana is astonishing. He is strongly opposed to the increasingly tolerant attitude towards it by the general public as well as lawmakers, and that is fine if that is what he believes. But he has said some incredibly dumb things about it.

Last year he actually said "Good people don't smoke marijuana". Now, if you want to say "Smoking marijuana is not good for people" you at least have a leg to stand on. But to say "good people don't smoke marijuana" indicates that he has no idea of the scope and range of people who regularly or occasionally smoke weed. Does he think it is nothing but criminals and degenerates? Or does he think that no matter how good of a person one may otherwise be, that is all cancelled out by the fact that they use marijuana?

He recently said that he believes using medical marijuana to treat heroin addiction would be the equivalent to "trading one life-wrecking dependency for another that is only slightly less awful". This is the Attorney General speaking? Because to suggest that marijuana is anywhere near the same ballpark as heroin is ridiculous. He is basically "Reefer Madness" level clueless. Unbelievable. I guess I should not be surprised but you'd think the Attorney General would be more informed than this.
What do you expect? He's a fucking racist, backward fucktard of a cunt who could only get a job in politics in hayseed deep red states.
 

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What do you expect? He's a fucking racist, backward fucktard of a cunt who could only get a job in politics in hayseed deep red states.
I expect that the US Attorney General would know without question that the difference between heroin and marijuana is a hell of a lot more than slight. And also for him to speak truthfully about it. But that is apparently too much to expect.
 
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I expect that the US Attorney General would know without question that the difference between and heroin and marijuana use is a hell of a lot more than slight. And also for him to speak truthfully about it. But that is apparently too much to expect.
Way too much to expect from anyone in this administration. I hope everyone who cast of vote for his master is still sticking their chests out in pride.
 

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What do you expect? He's a fucking racist, backward fucktard of a cunt who could only get a job in politics in hayseed deep red states.
You are irresponsible wih that statement. If you had watched the hearings you would know those accusations were refuted.
 

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You are irresponsible wih that statement. If you had watched the hearings you would know those accusations were refuted.
I watched all the hearings, just because your (meaning Session's) republican butt buddies say something doesn't mean it's true, there's plenty of information to refute those refutations.
 

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I watched all the hearings, just because your (meaning Session's) republican butt buddies say something doesn't mean it's true, there's plenty of information to refute those refutations.
More than Republicans refuted the claims. Is there a delayed broadcast of the hearings or do you work nights?
 
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