Washington Redtails? LMAO

2233boys · May 1, 2013

Just to be clear where did you get the 9% of offended Native Americans from ?

data · May 1, 2013

Although, I'll venture to guess that affirmative action caused less than 9% of whites to be rejected for college.

Smitty · May 1, 2013

pdom said:
Although, I'll venture to guess that affirmative action caused less than 9% of whites to be rejected for college.

Well, the name Washington Redskins caused 0% of Native Americans to be discriminated against, so there's that.

data · May 1, 2013

mschmidt64 said:
Hilarious that people like Phil actually think that they have a moral highground.... for sticking up for a group of people who aren't actually offended and when a court has already decided there is no evidence that the term is actually disparaging.

They've been hoodwinked into the same nonsense that Jesse Jackson has been selling for decades.

Yet we're the monsters for calling them out on their bullshit. Hilarious, Phil.

Don't know why you are referring to me. I couldn't care less about the name 'Redskins'. You can call me 'Oriental' if you'd like.

data · May 1, 2013

mschmidt64 said:
Knocking out people cause they are white is racist.

Agreed.

2233boys · May 1, 2013

mschmidt64 said:
FWIW:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Redskins_mascot_controversy

In 1992, Susan Shown Harjo, President of the Morning Star Institute, joined forces with other prominent Native Americans as well as Dorsey & Whitney law firm of Minneapolis and petitioned the U.S. Patent and Trademark office. They based their lawsuit on the idea that Federal Trademark law states that certain trademarks are not legal if they are "disparaging, scandalous contemptuous, or disreputable." The legal battle went on for seven years and in 1999 the judges canceled the federal trademarks of the Redskin name "on the grounds that the subject marks may disparage Native Americans and may bring them into contempt or disrepute."

Upon the news that the Redskins had been sold, the owners appealed the decision to a district court in the District of Columbia in Pro-Football, Inc. vs. Harjo. The court reversed the decision on the grounds of insufficient evidence of disparagement.

Click to expand...

Pwned.

Hasn't that case been taken to the Supreme Court?

data · May 1, 2013

Swastikas are prevalent in ancient Asian architecture...I'd argue that people are wrong if they demanded that the swastikas be removed.

Cotton · May 1, 2013

pdom said:
Swastikas are prevalent in ancient Asian architecture...I'd argue that people are wrong if they demanded that the swastikas be removed.

It was a very early symbol in the Hindu culture, no doubt.

Smitty · May 1, 2013

2233boys said:
Hasn't that case been taken to the Supreme Court?

It was appealed to the Supreme Court... who turned it down, indicating they weren't going to overturn it.

2233boys · May 1, 2013

2233boys said:
Just to be clear where did you get the 9% of offended Native Americans from ?

I asked this question because the only place I could find that number in relation to this question was from an anonymous poll done that had people self identify as Native American. Just saying the whole 9% claim being thrown around here could be complete horseshit. In one thing I read discussing this poll it said the question asked of the self identified Native Americans was as follows. "The professional football team in Washington calls itself the Washington Redskins. As a Native American, do you find that name offensive or doesn't?t it bother you?" It went on to suggest that it was reasonable to assume that the people polled focused on the positive reasons someone would name their team after your group rather than how they would feel if it was used in a disrespectful context.

As an aside, I don't think they should be compelled by the government to change their name.

EZ22 · May 1, 2013

Schmitty thinks we need to grow up and stop being offended by racists names and undertones.

But he would be pissed at his sister is she married a black guy.

And you niggers damn well better not be offended by that!

Cotton · May 1, 2013

2233boys said:
I asked this question because the only place I could find that number in relation to this question was from an anonymous poll done that had people self identify as Native American. Just saying the whole 9% claim being thrown around here could be complete horseshit. In one thing I read discussing this poll it said the question asked of the self identified Native Americans was as follows. "The professional football team in Washington calls itself the Washington Redskins. As a Native American, do you find that name offensive or doesn't?t it bother you?" It went on to suggest that it was reasonable to assume that the people polled focused on the positive reasons someone would name their team after your group rather than how they would feel if it was used in a disrespectful context.

As an aside, I don't think they should be compelled by the government to change their name.

Thanks for the research. What % of them answered negatively?

2233boys · May 1, 2013

mschmidt64 said:
It was appealed to the Supreme Court... who turned it down, indicating they weren't going to overturn it.

I should have looked it up. A quick google search gave me that answer thanks.

BipolarFuk · May 1, 2013

Funny how people like to hit you over the head with poll numbers (from one poll) when they support their agenda.

But when the numbers go against them, let's use the broader background checks that a poll suggested 90% of the people supported as an example.

The NRA and other extreme gun nuts didn't like those numbers very well, so they start yelling, "Oh yeah, where did you conduct that poll? New York City, California? Fucking liberal BIAS POLLS!!" :lol

Cotton · May 1, 2013

BipolarFan said:
Funny how people like to hit you over the head with poll numbers (from one poll) when they support their agenda.

But when the numbers go against them, let's use the broader background checks that a poll suggested 90% of the people supported as an example.

The NRA and other extreme gun nuts didn't like those numbers very well, so they start yelling, "Oh yeah, where did you conduct that poll? New York City, California? Fucking liberal BIAS POLLS!!"

This post is almost equal to the best I have ever seen from you.

BipolarFuk · May 1, 2013

WHO DID YOU POLL?

INDIAN CASINO OWNERS?

Hai, guys.

91% of Indian casino owners don't give a fuck about Redskin.

Cotton · May 1, 2013

BipolarFan said:
WHO DID YOU POLL?

INDIAN CASINO OWNERS?

Hai, guys.

91% of Indian casino owners don't give a fuck about Redskin.

Thank you for contributing to the thread.

I hope to hear more from you in the future.

2233boys · May 1, 2013

Iamtdg said:
Thanks for the research. What % of them answered negatively?

It said 9%, but that the poll was also anonymous relaying on the respondents to self identify themselves as Native American. My wife's Great Great Great Grandmother was a Cherokee and none of her family even has any ties to that culture. She could technically claim to be of Native American decent and would have answered this same poll like 91% of the 786 respondents. I guess my point is that if the poll doesn't have as much credibility as one done more selectively and with more criteria.

Sports Illustrated did one in 2002 that asked Native Americans on reservations and 62% didn't find it offensive. I'd trust that number a little more.

L.T. Fan · May 1, 2013

EZ22 said:
Schmitty thinks we need to grow up and stop being offended by racists names and undertones.

But he would be pissed at his sister is she married a black guy.

And you niggers damn well better not be offended by that!

Question. Regarding the "N" word, I see and hear black people use the word often and black comedians as well. There doesn't seem to be any offense taken in that setting so is it the word that is offensive or who is saying the word?

Kbrown · May 1, 2013

2233boys said:
It said 9%, but that the poll was also anonymous relaying on the respondents to self identify themselves as Native American. My wife's Great Great Great Grandmother was a Cherokee and none of her family even has any ties to that culture. She could technically claim to be of Native American decent and would have answered this same poll like 91% of the 786 respondents. I guess my point is that if the poll doesn't have as much credibility as one done more selectively and with more criteria.

Sports Illustrated did one in 2002 that asked Native Americans on reservations and 62% didn't find it offensive. I'd trust that number a little more.

Is this a long way of saying CNNSI is the only reputable source? :towel

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