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Thread: Archer: Cowboys believe Taco Charlton's story is just beginning

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    Quote Originally Posted by boozeman View Post
    I'm not reading too much into this. It's possible they have a joking kind of relationship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev View Post
    Says the guy that will eat shit for a super bowl appearance.....
    Well not human feces

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleton View Post
    Yes, yes, 270.

    Whether we like it or not Watt had no experience in a 3-point stance and there is no way he comes in and produces as a rookie like he did in Pittsburgh. He was a pure 3-4 OLB prospect, could he have transitioned into a full-time DE for us?

    Sure, but it would've taken a few years and it's likely that he would've been a mostly sub-package player for us until at least Year 2 or even 3.

    Of course there's plenty of value in that, and I'm not saying passing up Watt was the clear cut right decision, but they didn't make the decision without some reasonable logic.
    But it wasn't down to just watt versus taco.

    They could have just decided that DE wasn't the only position on the board and gone in a different direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genghis Khan View Post
    They could have just decided that DE wasn't the only position on the board and gone in a different direction.
    Yep. Except Stevie Boy already had his mind made up. He pretty much told the world we were going to take a passrusher first.

    That said, who knows, he might turn out to be just fine. I do hope he wasn't talking about Haley in that tweet. Pretty snowflakey for a defensive lineman if he was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Genghis Khan View Post
    But it wasn't down to just watt versus taco.

    They could have just decided that DE wasn't the only position on the board and gone in a different direction.
    Well that's true. Is there a player you think that we should have taken over Taco at a different position?

    I wanted Taco personally and I actually think he looked good the second half of last season. So I don't really see who I would have preferred at 28 but I'm curious who you would have liked? I could understand Watt as I really liked him but other than that I'm sort of scratching my head right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genghis Khan View Post
    But it wasn't down to just watt versus taco.

    They could have just decided that DE wasn't the only position on the board and gone in a different direction.
    Who are you suggesting?

    Kevin King? Reuben Foster?

    It's not like Charlton was a late-2nd who they reached for, the value made sense.

    In hindsight I would love Ryan Ramczyk as he was arguably the BPA but I don't think any Cowboy fan can say with a straight face that they wanted us to go OL as the draft was happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleton View Post
    Who are you suggesting?

    Kevin King? Reuben Foster?

    It's not like Charlton was a late-2nd who they reached for, the value made sense.

    In hindsight I would love Ryan Ramczyk as he was arguably the BPA but I don't think any Cowboy fan can say with a straight face that they wanted us to go OL as the draft was happening.
    Yeah no way anyone was taking a first round OT. Yeah it would have helped a ton last year when Smith went through injuries but there was no way that was happening. Hell we probably would have forced him at guard instead.

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    I'm pretty hardcore BPA and even I would have had trouble justifying yet another first-round offensive lineman.

    If I remember correctly there were some defensive backs that would have been easy to justify in that spot though.

    It did at the time seemed like we were pretty desperate for pass-rusher and the quality at that spot in the first round seemed to match up with what we were looking for. But personally Taco is never a guy that I really thought all that much of.

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    Charlton plays a different position than Watt. He had 3 sacks and a FF in 399 snaps (38%) while Watt had 7 and 1 in 751 snaps (76%). Basically he earned nearly double the PT and had just more than double the sacks. Charlton also played more LDE on the strong side.

    I think Charlton is more of the type of player we needed, and nothing will help him more than strong play at NT next to him. That position is going to make or break

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcnuttz View Post
    Not quite as spectacular as Jaylon's bowling celebration though, let's not get carried away.
    Omg both celebrations are gawd awful.

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