Genghis Khan
The worst version of myself
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Yeah, he certainly can play.
That isn't true at all. He is actually a very talented guy.
Yeah, he certainly can play.
That isn't true at all. He is actually a very talented guy.
I don't think you can say with any certainty that he sucks.Uh, no.
A lot of us want to get rid of him because he sucks. He can't play. Simple as that.
He's not worth the headache.
Really?
That isn't true at all. He is actually a very talented guy.
From what I've seen from him so far......he sucks. I'm just going by the tape that HE put out there.I don't think you can say with any certainty that he sucks.
So you studied the tape did you? Was that the tape before or after the high ankle sprain? Because if you watch the tape before the high ankle sprain he was destroying the Giants, even if it didn't show up in the stat line. And no I can't forget that the guy was a first round talent or that he went toe to toe with Tyron Smith in preseason. You can dog him for smoking weed or being dumb all you want but to claim he just sucks is absurd. He was a rookie adding weight and coming back from a serious injury mid season.From what I've seen from him so far......he sucks. I'm just going by the tape that HE put out there.
Collins has looked good and they played in some crucial situations so they must have some faith in him.As an aside...his former Husker teammate, Maliek Collins, looks pretty damn good. If they move T. Crawford to DE more, that should open up more playing time for Collins and Thornton.
I was excited about the signing of Thornton, but for whatever reason he has the lowest snap total of any DL. I thought he would be a key cog this season, now it looks more like he is depth.
That is pretty much what happened in the 2nd half and will probably repeat itself going forward. I would rather see Irving back up Thornton. To me, he seems better inside at the 3T.Thornton has the ability to play both DT spots...my preference would be for him to play the 3, not the 1...kicking Crawford to DE.
Really?
Where have you seen this talent outside of the Big 10?
All I've seen is a guy who almost got a sack or two in the preseason and who contributed next to nothing last year.
And from what I've seen from him so far, he doesn't strike me as a hard worker who will make a big leap in years 2-3.
Thornton is more of NT, Mclain is much more active and fits the 3 much better but I agree about kicking Crawford to DE.Thornton has the ability to play both DT spots...my preference would be for him to play the 3, not the 1...kicking Crawford to DE.
Oh for fuck sakes...you didn't watch tape either. Let's be clear here...you watched the game on TV like everyone else did. You did not watch tape or walk around all day with a whistle around your neck wearing coaches shorts.So you studied the tape did you? Was that the tape before or after the high ankle sprain? Because if you watch the tape before the high ankle sprain he was destroying the Giants, even if it didn't show up in the stat line. And no I can't forget that the guy was a first round talent or that he went toe to toe with Tyron Smith in preseason. You can dog him for smoking weed or being dumb all you want but to claim he just sucks is absurd. He was a rookie adding weight and coming back from a serious injury mid season.
You might be right about the suspensions and his work ethic though. Who knows what he will look like after being away from football for a year. He may be a 210 pound turd at that point. So you cut him then.
Oh for fuck sakes...you didn't watch tape either. Let's be clear here...you watched the game on TV like everyone else did. You did not watch tape or walk around all day with a whistle around your neck wearing coaches shorts.
I think McClain is better suited at the 1 and Crawford at the 3. McClain plays with more power and I think Thornton is more athletic.Thornton is more of NT, Mclain is much more active and fits the 3 much better but I agree about kicking Crawford to DE.
Oh GFY, I never said I watched the tape. So don't give me some blow hard response just because you feel like being a dick today.Oh for fuck sakes...you didn't watch tape either. Let's be clear here...you watched the game on TV like everyone else did. You did not watch tape or walk around all day with a whistle around your neck wearing coaches shorts.
Where would that leave Collins? We seem to have a bunch of 3's and no real 1T or DE's...That is pretty much what happened in the 2nd half and will probably repeat itself going forward. I would rather see Irving back up Thornton. To me, he seems better inside at the 3T.
He would still be involved. Didn't mean to imply he was the odd guy out.Where would that leave Collins? We seem to have a bunch of 3's and no real 1T or DE's...
Yeah but rookies often look lost and DE isn't one of the easier positions to come in and play seamlessly. Any 2nd round rookie DE needs time just like DeMarcus Lawrence did.From what I've seen from him so far......he sucks. I'm just going by the tape that HE put out there.
I know you guys want to buy into potential and all that but I can only go by what my eyes showed me......and what I saw last year was a guy who looked like he's trying to skate by on natural ability because doing so was probably good enough in high school and college.
If he were a 6th rounder he'd already be off the team but since he's a 2nd rounder everyone feels the need to hold on to him in hopes of salvaging something from yet another wasted 2nd round pick.
Really?Oh GFY, I never said I watched the tape. So don't give me some blow hard response just because you feel like being a dick today.
You are referencing a tape that you watched. I'm sure you probably scribbled some notes on the clipboard you were holding as you watched the tape.So you studied the tape did you? Was that the tape before or after the high ankle sprain? Because if you watch the tape before the high ankle sprain he was destroying the Giants, even if it didn't show up in the stat line.