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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamtdg View Post
    Senat in the 4th and I am a very happy camper.
    Yep! I'm with you on this one. Really thinking Marinelli talks Jerry out of taking Vea, even if he falls in our lap.
    I see Senat as the real thing. If not, we could grab someone like Settle. There's some legit talent to be had at DT in this draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
    He's not. He is an excellent NT but we can get a different excellent NT in this draft in the third and still get a great player in the first. So yeah hell no to trading up for Vea.
    You can get a player to build a defense around in the 3rd? I had no idea.

    If only youíd been around sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iamtdg View Post
    I'm willing to move up for him, but just a few spots. I most likely don't jump up past 15 or so. Obviously, it depends on the cost, but I don't use more than a third to move up.
    Neither do I. I donít think weíll be able to get him though with only a 3rd as we might have to jump ahead of Washington.

    It would cost some change, and thatís where the extra picks give us flexibility.

    This is the piece thatís been missing from our D for decades. Dak and the offense have too much pressure carrying the whole team.

    A guy like this changes everything on the other side of the ball. He demands a legit double team and also gets the penetration the LBs have been missing since god knows how long.

    But if the cost is too high we canít afford it. Recall though we traded a 3rd for Demarcus Lawrence, and Vea is a better prospect than Lawrence was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravidubey View Post
    You can get a player to build a defense around in the 3rd? I had no idea.

    If only you’d been around sooner.
    No one builds a team around a NT. That's just being silly. Look at all the first round NTs that bounce around the league these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboysrock55 View Post
    No one builds a team around a NT. That's just being silly. Look at all the first round NTs that bounce around the league these days.
    Tampa Bay / Sapp maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lostxn View Post
    Tampa Bay / Sapp maybe?
    Sapp was a 3 technique. He was a 300 pound man whose forte was rushing the passer.

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    Casey Hampton and Haloti Ngata are two perfect examples. These huge guys that can penetrate the line donít come around often. They are automatic mismatches on every play.

    You can build around a Vea.

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    I can see Irving, Vea, Taco and Lawrence being so dominant we could be reminded of Doomsday. And it would make the young DBs sooooo much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ravidubey View Post
    Casey Hampton and Haloti Ngata are two perfect examples. These huge guys that can penetrate the line don’t come around often. They are automatic mismatches on every play.

    You can build around a Vea.
    The Ravens defense was never built around Ngata. He was a nice piece but it was never built around him. Same for Casey Hampton. It's why neither defense has panicked to replace either guy. It's why Ngata is bouncing around the league. Just like Poe and every other highly drafted NT in recent history.

    Vea would be a great addition here but the defense wouldn't be built around him. Which is why it's not worth a third round pick to get him. Especially in a great DT class like this one.

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    I canít remember the last time we had a NT of any note. Seriously itís been that long.

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