Emmitt Smith on all-time ranking: My stats speak for themselves

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Hall of Fame running back Emmitt Smith took notice recently when a couple of rankings of the greatest running backs in NFL history put him lower than he thought he deserved.

When former Cowboys personnel man Gil Brandt ranked the top running backs, he listed Smith 10th. When Peter King assembled a panel of experts to draft their own all-time teams, Smith was the 16th back taken.

But Smith says that his legacy is secure, thanks to two all-time records: Smith ran for 18,355 yards and 164 touchdowns, both the best in NFL history.

“You always have to go back to, ‘What is the criteria for the greatest running back of all-time?’ ” Smith told the Dallas Morning News. “And if you really want to have a legitimate conversation about the best running back in National Football League history, or the best player in NFL history, then you have to create the criteria. And if you create the criteria, then anybody who’s chiming in can give you their true opinion. Because now you have something you can actually gauge it against. Everything else is so arbitrary. So I think they are just doing it to create a conversation in the marketplace. I’m not going to overly concern myself with it. Because at the end of the day, eighteen three fifty-five speaks for itself. One hundred sixty-four speaks for itself.”

Smith is obviously right that his career numbers stack up with anyone, although he also put together his numbers running behind a great offensive line that some of the other top backs in NFL history could only dream of. He also kept compiling yards and touchdowns when he was well past his prime, which put his totals out of the reach of players who retired earlier. And Smith’s yards per carry average of 4.2 is a full yard behind Jim Brown’s 5.2.

Smith is justified if he considers himself the best of them all, as are others who look at the totality of NFL history and don’t put Smith in the company of the 10 best running backs ever.
 

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What I don't understand is how, when you ask someone who was the greatest wide receiver in NFL history - it's virtually unanimous that its Jerry Rice. Why? NFL records and rings.

When you ask who the greatest running back is - despite having all the major NFL records and rings - everyone discredits Emmitt Smith.

While I can't stand him since he's retired (started to dislike him with the diamonds surrounded by trash comment, and grew to seriously dislike him on ESPN etc after that), you will never convince me that Emmitt Smith was the greatest running back in NFL history.
 

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Two reasons, he was perceived as being a beneficiary of what was the NFL's possibly best offensive line ever, and also perceived in his prime as being inferior to Barry Sanders.

I don't think Rice had anyone who could even compare to him until the 90s came around.

Plus there's some media anti Cowboy bias.

FWIW I do not think Smith is the greatest RB ever but he's up there.
 

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Two reasons, he was perceived as being a beneficiary of what was the NFL's possibly best offensive line ever, and also perceived in his prime as being inferior to Barry Sanders.

I don't think Rice had anyone who could even compare to him until the 90s came around.

Plus there's some media anti Cowboy bias.

FWIW I do not think Smith is the greatest RB ever but he's up there.
This isn't a matter of who is the flashiest running back. It's who is the best. The purpose of a running back is to gain yards. That in itself defines who is the owner of that category. What other criteria is there?

The same could be said of who is the best golfer. The obvious answer is who has won the most tournaments.
 

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This isn't a matter of who is the flashiest running back. It's who is the best. The purpose of a running back is to gain yards. That in itself defines who is the owner of that category. What other criteria is there?

The same could be said of who is the best golfer. The obvious answer is who has won the most tournaments.
You keep getting stuck on stats, and stats rarely tell the whole story. In this case, though, the stats and reality align. Emmitt was the best all around back in NFL history. Factoring in his blocking, etc, I don's see anyone better.
 

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I don't think he was the best, but he was a lot higher than 10th or 16th. That's crazy. He's underrated for the same reason he wasn't drafted higher -- because his athleticism doesn't blow you away. But he was strong and sneaky quick. I remember Switzer saying he had a quickness in person that for some reason didn't show up on TV, and I thought the exact same thing the first time I saw him in person.

What was really amazing about him was his durability. That's very underappreciated about him.
 

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You keep getting stuck on stats, and stats rarely tell the whole story. In this case, though, the stats and reality align. Emmitt was the best all around back in NFL history. Factoring in his blocking, etc, I don's see anyone better.
What else is there but stats to make a legitimate case? If stats were now important why bother keeping them. They are kept as a matter of no bias compilations. It's the principle yard stick for "individual" evaluation.
 

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What else is there but stats to make a legitimate case? If stats were now important why bother keeping them. They are kept as a matter of no bias compilations. It's the principle yard stick for "individual" evaluation.
MY EYEBALLS! Jesus Christ.
 

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For the umpteeth time. Super Bowl rings/ championships are a team accomplishment.
That's what players/coaches without them keep saying
 

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That's what players/coaches without them keep saying
No. There are team stats and individual stats. No one argues that the primary goals by coaches and teams are championships but the question in the instant case was which individual RB notwithstanding team accomplishments, is or was best at their role in the NFL.
 

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No. There are team stats and individual stats. No one argues that the primary goals by coaches and teams are championships but the question in the instant case was which individual RB notwithstanding team accomplishments, is or was best at their role in the NFL.
And, you can't measure blocking with stats.
 

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If you go by the eyeball test Jerry Rice couldn't hold Randy Moss's jock.
 

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What I don't understand is how, when you ask someone who was the greatest wide receiver in NFL history - it's virtually unanimous that its Jerry Rice. Why? NFL records and rings.
Rice had no help beating a corner and/or safety. Smith had five o-linemen, Moose, and whatever blocking the TE or WR was doing on a running play.
 

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Rice had no help beating a corner and/or safety. Smith had five o-linemen, Moose, and whatever blocking the TE or WR was doing on a running play.
Rice had some of the greatest QB's in history throwing him the ball and were benefitting of one of the greatest offensive minds (Walsh) and his offense...

Still think he is the GOAT, because no one made it for so long at such a high level, but kind of the reason why I also think you can't take Emmitt out of the top 3-5.
 

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By the way I still have Emmitt as my number one. I give him longevity as a big positive though. Other RBs had greater single seasons but no RB has been as good as him over an extended period of time. Jerry Rice playing until he was 40 is part of what makes him so great. I give Emmitt a similar bump.

It is hard with RBs though. They are very dependant on being in the right situation.
 
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