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skidadl

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Unless you suck at it, which Trump does. He's not a competent business man. If he had invested his inheritance in the S&P he would have been more financially successful, and that's without ever scamming investors.

He's not a legitimate business man. You shouldn't insult yourself by comparing him to you.
Alright then, buddy. You go with that.
 

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If Trump is so indisposable to his businesses, how can he run presidential campaigns without it affecting his companies? Because he's a real estate owner who collects rent checks. Trump Steaks, Trump U, USFL, Trump towers, Trump airlines, Trump casinos. Either he's not involved with these things, or worse he butts in and ruins them.
How did he end up that way? There are phases of business ownership. I cannot believe that I am arguing with someone about something when they don't know what they are taking about. It is like arguing with a kid. You just can't win no matter what.
 

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Point was you can't necessarily gauge one's intelligence by their speech. Trump is a New Yorker and their delivery of speech patterns is by nature aggressive sounding.

Just say you don't like him or trust him and folks will understand that. Your pseudo psychological but sarcastic analysis isn't credible.
That is the dumbest thing I have read in a long time.:lol

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All New Yorkers and some politicians and none have aggressive speech patterns.
 

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How did he end up that way? There are phases of business ownership. I cannot believe that I am arguing with someone about something when they don't know what they are taking about. It is like arguing with a kid. You just can't win no matter what.
My God your conceited, isn't that a sin or something? It doesn't take a venerated business owner to see a film flam man for what he is. I'm not a physician, but I know Dr. Oz is full of shit.

You're playing this same "I've been a coach" nonsense to try and demean fair criticism for a trust fund baby who's failures have been numerous and heavily catalogued. I'm sure every snake oil salesmen says they burn the midnight oil. But if you bothered to see his involvement in many of his projects it just isn't there. He's a brand like a Kardashian, he puts his name on shit. Like Trump University. Let me tell I know a fuck more about business than all the dumbasses that paid to "learn his secrets."
 

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My God your conceited, isn't that a sin or something? It doesn't take a venerated business owner to see a film flam man for what he is. I'm not a physician, but I know Dr. Oz is full of shit.

You're playing this same "I've been a coach" nonsense to try and demean fair criticism for a trust fund baby who's failures have been numerous and heavily catalogued. I'm sure every snake oil salesmen says they burn the midnight oil. But if you bothered to see his involvement in many of his projects it just isn't there. He's a brand like a Kardashian, he puts his name on shit. Like Trump University. Let me tell I know a fuck more about business than all the dumbasses that paid to "learn his secrets."
Good god man you have no business experience whatsoever and you are criticizing a billionaire concerning business but I am conceited?

But let's get back to the real thing we started taking about. Which is that Trump is lazy. This isn't about him being a piece of crap human, which he is. All I'm saying is that you don't know jack about what Trump has done work wise. No idea. That's all. It takes a lot but you just don't know that. No idea why this turned into what it did but that's not surprising.
 
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My God your conceited, isn't that a sin or something? It doesn't take a venerated business owner to see a film flam man for what he is. I'm not a physician, but I know Dr. Oz is full of shit.

You're playing this same "I've been a coach" nonsense to try and demean fair criticism for a trust fund baby who's failures have been numerous and heavily catalogued. I'm sure every snake oil salesmen says they burn the midnight oil. But if you bothered to see his involvement in many of his projects it just isn't there. He's a brand like a Kardashian, he puts his name on shit. Like Trump University. Let me tell I know a fuck more about business than all the dumbasses that paid to "learn his secrets."
You are a bit of a know-it-all yourself. Careful, pot meet kettle and all that.
 

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Good god man you have no business experience whatsoever and you are criticizing a billionaire cornering business but I am conceited?

But let's get back to the real thing we started taking about. Which is that Trump is lazy. This isn't about him being a piece of crap human, which he is. All I'm saying is that you don't know jack about what Trump has done work wise. No idea. That's all. It takes a lot but you just don't know that. No idea why this turned into what it did but that's not surprising.
Trump is good at two things, renovating NY real estate, and selling his brand. He managed to get on the ground floor of one of the biggest real estate booms in history. Which is cool, but he was born with over hundred million dollars to his name. So he had the benefit of being able to toss a few million dollars at real estate that would happen to explode in value. Meanwhile his vodka business, his mortgage business, his university, his steak business, his airline, his search engine, his casinos, his magazines, and his football league faltered.

Let's get specific here. He didn't do his research on the Airline he purchased, he wanted to make a bunch of shitty planes that were used for cheap flights to and from Boston/New York, and tried slap some gold paint on them, so they could be sold as a luxury experience. He half assed it.

His mortgage company failed because he hired a fraud called EJ Ridings to run the business, even though the man had no qualifications whatsoever. No one did due diligence in hiring the man who ran the company into the ground. He half assed it.

The USFL faltered, because Trump pressured the league into competing with the NFL so he could force a buy out. Rather than letting the league develop in it's non competitive spring schedule, he killed the golden goose trying to force a short term windfall. He half assed it.

Now I'm not saying he's never worked hard, but he's absolutely failed to work hard enough to make a lot of his endeavors succeed. This campaign is a great example, Trump hasn't acquired the minimum level of knowledge required for a presidential candidate. He half assed it.
 

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Trump is definitely a tireless worker. He's a serial entrepreneur so lots of failures and success is pretty much par for the course. He's far far more successful than not. I don't particularly admire him for that but I do understand to a certain extent what it takes. Nothing like his level because I just don't have that motivation or skill. You have to really love to chase the money to do what he does. I don't wanta wake up each day breathing that sort of life.
 

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I doubt he can even achieve the wall.

Obama is going to close Guantánamo, right?
 

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I'll tell you what, Donald Trump, Ted Cruz and the rest of these clowns almost make you miss George W. Bush. Seems more competent in retrospect.
 

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I doubt he can even achieve the wall.

Obama is going to close Guantánamo, right?
Not sure I see the correlation here, but if you are saying that things change when you become President, then I think we can agree.
 

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I liked Kasich as the best candidate, but that ship has sailed. The R person I like is Nikki Haley. If I was advising her, I would tell her to run as far away from Trump as possible. She could be President some day.
 

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That is the dumbest thing I have read in a long time.:lol

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Woody Allen
Harry Belafonte
Barbara Boxer
Steve Buscemi
Dick Clark
Bob Costas
Malcolm Forbes
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Alan Greenspan
Colin Powell
Dick Schaap

All New Yorkers and some politicians and none have aggressive speech patterns.
All the people you have listed have trained themselves to public speaking. My comment still stands. New Yorkers by nature are aggressive speakers. Pointing out exceptions doesn't strengthen your argument.
 

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Not sure I see the correlation here, but if you are saying that things change when you become President, then I think we can agree.
Exactly. Trump if throwing a bunch of stuff out there and making a ton of wild promises. If he makes it most of them will never be achieved.
 

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Seriously though, I'd love to hear some opinions on building a wall and not building a wall.
 

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Seriously though, I'd love to hear some opinions on building a wall and not building a wall.
I don't have anything wrong with the premise of securing the borders, but it'd be an ineffective and pretty close to impossible undertaking. Just trying to put up a border fence has been a nightmarish and pointless project.

There's too much border and the infrastructure required just to get construction in these remote areas, the costs to get equipment and crews to the sites would be staggering, and if we managed to get it done (we probably wouldn't) they probably wouldn't keep anybody out. If we had 100 billion to spare on a wall to nowhere, we should be using that money to modernize American infrastructure.
 

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I don't really know but everyone is afraid to talk about it because apparently the topic is racist?
 

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I don't have anything wrong with the premise of securing the borders, but it'd be an ineffective and pretty close to impossible undertaking. Just trying to put up a border fence has been a nightmarish and pointless project.

There's too much border and the infrastructure required just to get construction in these remote areas, the costs to get equipment and crews to the sites would be staggering, and if we managed to get it done (we probably wouldn't) they probably wouldn't keep anybody out. If we had 100 billion to spare on a wall to nowhere, we should be using that money to modernize American infrastructure.
I believe Trumps position is that Mexico will pay for the wall. My guess is that he will assess traffic coming from Mexico and other trade tariffs as a way of financing the construction.
 
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