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If there is one thing Trump actually might be good at it is wheeling and dealing and bullying people into getting something done. I'm not so sure gridlock would be worse.
He would have to know what he was wheeling and dealing for and the ramifications of those deals.

He has not shown anything policy wise to show he would not make it up as he goes along.

Trump has never done anything but tried to put money in his own pocket and has used fraud to do that.



He has also failed several times doing this, why would anyone listen to him?

You can only bully if you have leverage what actual leverage would he have as president with a divided congress and a percentage of his own party against his proposals.

Paul Ryan is already pushing back against him and he has all of the real power.
 
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Kennedy was a war hero, with over a decade in the legislature. Trump couldn't explain what a nuclear Triad was, has no understanding of foreign policy, if you think electing him as commander in chief in a world where Putin's planes are buzzing our ships isn't scary, you grossly underestimate he position of president.
Just goes to show you how knee-jerk people can be. The same hysteria is happening this election. People's imaginations are running amuck. What makes anyone think one person can bring down the nation. I will tell you. Knee jerk types. By the way Kennedy possessed none of the things you are fearful about when he took office but he managed to avert the Cuban missile crisis.
 

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Just goes to show you how knee-jerk people can be. The same hysteria is happening this election. People's imaginations are running amuck. What makes anyone think one person can bring down the nation. I will tell you. Knee jerk types. By the way Kennedy possessed none of the things you are fearful about when he took office but he managed to avert the Cuban missile crisis.
It sure was th prevailing wisdom while Obama as in office.
 

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Just goes to show you how knee-jerk people can be. The same hysteria is happening this election. People's imaginations are running amuck. What makes anyone think one person can bring down the nation. I will tell you. Knee jerk types. By the way Kennedy possessed none of the things you are fearful about when he took office but he managed to avert the Cuban missile crisis.
The one person is commander-in-chief of the largest military in humans existence, and will literally have control over nuclear weapons capable of eradicating life on this planet. But you're right anyone can do this job.
JFK was a decorated naval officer, he possessed a pretty high level of intelligence. Most importantly he's not a thin skinned adult baby who can't take criticism and will actively harass the people he feels threatened by, Trump has made it fairly clear that he's a text book narcissist with a 2 digit IQ. No one, particularly in the age of nuclear weapons has ever been elected to the office of the presidency with such a long list of disqualifying characteristics.
 

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The one person is commander-in-chief of the largest military in humans existence, and will literally have control over nuclear weapons capable of eradicating life on this planet. But you're right anyone can do this job.
JFK was a decorated naval officer, he possessed a pretty high level of intelligence. Most importantly he's not a thin skinned adult baby who can't take criticism and will actively harass the people he feels threatened by, Trump has made it fairly clear that he's a text book narcissist with a 2 digit IQ. No one, particularly in the age of nuclear weapons has ever been elected to the office of the presidency with such a long list of disqualifying characteristics.
You are going to wear your knees out. You have so many unfounded presumptions in your characterization that you cannot even make a complete sentence without extreme and sarcastic depictions. Trump is an intelligent person. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he is an imbecile. I heard these same depictions about Obama and the country didn't collapse nor did it implode. You seem to have a fetish for extremism in your description of people you don't care for. Again it's called knee jerk.
 

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You are going to wear your knees out. You have so many unfounded presumptions in your characterization that you cannot even make a complete sentence without extreme and sarcastic depictions. Trump is an intelligent person. Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he is an imbecile. I heard these same depictions about Obama and the country didn't collapse nor did it implode. You seem to have a fetish for extremism in your description of people you don't care for. Again it's called knee jerk.
It's fun to sit and play at being a centrist but there isn't a criticism of him that I have that there isn't ample evidence for.
He is a guy with a low IQ. It's evident in the fact that he he speaks at a 3rd grade level. He can't speak intelligently on any political topic, if you had bothered to watch that video I posted about the nuclear triad, you could see how poorly he grasps topics essential to the office of the presidency. He's a guy who says stuff about how we should be going after Isis families (aka a war crime), how we should be banning Muslims from entering the country, and that we should keep a database of Muslims. The man's a dolt.

There's a reason party leadership won't support this man, he's the least qualified presidential candidate in a century or more JFK wasn't, Obama wasn't, Trump is. The next closest was Herbert Hoover, and he was at least fairly intelligent. Also he bungled and exasserbated the Great Depression. So not great precedent.

I'm not a knee jerk, your just resorting to dismissal because it's easier than admitting you can't see the emperor's new clothes. You've been had by a 2-bit con man, who managed to drag down an entire party with the bullying and third grade antics befitting his child like intelligence.
 

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It's fun to sit and play at being a centrist but there isn't a criticism of him that I have that there isn't ample evidence for.
He is a guy with a low IQ. It's evident in the fact that he he speaks at a 3rd grade level. He can't speak intelligently on any political topic, if you had bothered to watch that video I posted about the nuclear triad, you could see how poorly he grasps topics essential to the office of the presidency. He's a guy who says stuff about how we should be going after Isis families (aka a war crime), how we should be banning Muslims from entering the country, and that we should keep a database of Muslims. The man's a dolt.

There's a reason party leadership won't support this man, he's the least qualified presidential candidate in a century or more JFK wasn't, Obama wasn't, Trump is. The next closest was Herbert Hoover, and he was at least fairly intelligent. Also he bungled and exasserbated the Great Depression. So not great precedent.

I'm not a knee jerk, your just resorting to dismissal because it's easier than admitting you can't see the emperor's new clothes. You've been had by a 2-bit con man, who managed to drag down an entire party with the bullying and third grade antics befitting his child like intelligence.
Trump is saying what he thinks a lot of voters wants to hear. By the way have you ever heard Albert Einstein speak?
 

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Trump is saying what he thinks a lot of voters wants to hear. By the way have you ever heard Albert Einstein speak?
Einstein's first language wasn't English, and he never lacked for complexity. That's very different from Trump's boiler plate, mad libs style of approach to language

Once again, look at his response to the nuclear triad question. It's a big deal that he can't intelligently discuss the nuclear weapons the President would be in charge of. Maybe he should have cracked a book instead of harassing Megan Kelly on Twitter, it's called time management, and the President has to be very good at it. You can't elect a president that can't make informed decisions, some doofus half assing it (the way Trump half asses most of his endeavors) could and would have catastrophic consequences.
 

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Einstein's first language wasn't English, and he never lacked for complexity. That's very different from Trump's boiler plate, mad libs style of approach to language

Once again, look at his response to the nuclear triad question. It's a big deal that he can't intelligently discuss the nuclear weapons the President would be in charge of. Maybe he should have cracked a book instead of harassing Megan Kelly on Twitter, it's called time management, and the President has to be very good at it. You can't elect a president that can't make informed decisions, some doofus half assing it (the way Trump half asses most of his endeavors) could and would have catastrophic consequences.
Point was you can't necessarily gauge one's intelligence by their speech. Trump is a New Yorker and their delivery of speech patterns is by nature aggressive sounding.

Just say you don't like him or trust him and folks will understand that. Your pseudo psychological but sarcastic analysis isn't credible.
 
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I'm all for calling Trump a dufus and all but half-assing it? I don't know he has a tireless woke ethic. That much is clear.
 

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I'm all for calling Trump a dufus and all but half-assing it? I don't know he has a tireless woke ethic. That much is clear.
I've heard about Trump's self professed 4 hour sleep schedule and heavy work schedule, not sure how much of it believable. Exaggerating work hours is common for people who aren't compulsive liars.

Even if it was true, Trump lacks focus. He clearly dupes people into investing into projects that he promises to be a huge part of, and then doesn't touch again. I'm sure you heard the list, Trump steaks, and towers, and airlines, and university. A lot of junk he sold with his "brand" then checked out. That's half assery at its finest.
 

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I've heard about Trump's self professed 4 hour sleep schedule and heavy work schedule, not sure how much of it believable. Exaggerating work hours is common for people who aren't compulsive liars.

Even if it was true, Trump lacks focus. He clearly dupes people into investing into projects that he promises to be a huge part of, and then doesn't touch again. I'm sure you heard the list, Trump steaks, and towers, and airlines, and university. A lot of junk he sold with his "brand" then checked out. That's half assery at its finest.
I'm gonna go ahead and assume you don't know jack about running an organization.
 

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I'm gonna go ahead and assume you don't know jack about running an organization.
If your asking if I know how to run a business, I have a pretty good relationship with quite a few business owners. I've also spent 7 years in the military so I've seen my share of effective and toxic leadership habits. I've thought of starting a business, but it's not something you go into willy nilly, like running for president.

But you're being a condescending prick. Trump's a dumbass who runs business after business into the ground, but also happens to own huge tracks of Manhattan real estate. Most of his income is passive, he could literally sit in his gold plated underpants all day and probably be better off. Most people don't get their name on a dozen failed endeavors and keep rolling. You're a business owner, right? How many businesses could you afford to bankrupt? I'm guessing 0.
 

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If your asking if I know how to run a business, I have a pretty good relationship with quite a few business owners. I've also spent 7 years in the military so I've seen my share of effective and toxic leadership habits. I've thought of starting a business, but it's not something you go into willy nilly, like running for president.

But you're being a condescending prick. Trump's a dumbass who runs business after business into the ground, but also happens to own huge tracks of Manhattan real estate. Most of his income is passive, he could literally sit in his gold plated underpants all day and probably be better off. Most people don't get their name on a dozen failed endeavors and keep rolling. You're a business owner, right? How many businesses could you afford to bankrupt? I'm guessing 0.

I've owned 3 legitimate businesses. I've been bankrupt before. Trump has never been bankrupt but he is no stranger to using it. But we are taking about if he is lazy or not since that is what you said. Basically you don't know what you're taking about. I don't care if you met someone that owned a business. Please don't try to be an expert by association. That is rerarded.

Running an organization not only take engagement, hard work and fortitude, it also takes your attention Ina regular basis. It consumes your. Or at least it does for a number of years. I honestly think trump would be a terrible president but to suggest that he's just some lazy idiot is pretty lazy in itself.
 

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I've owned 3 legitimate businesses. I've been bankrupt before. Trump has never been bankrupt but he is no stranger to using it. But we are taking about if he is lazy or not since that is what you said. Basically you don't know what you're taking about. I don't care if you met someone that owned a business. Please don't try to be an expert by association. That is rerarded.

Running an organization not only take engagement, hard work and fortitude, it also takes your attention Ina regular basis. It consumes your. Or at least it does for a number of years. I honestly think trump would be a terrible president but to suggest that he's just some lazy idiot is pretty lazy in itself.
A person cannot be stupid and accomplish what he has. It's asinine to make some of the assumptions I am reading on this thread. It all contrived rhetoric simply because of a disdane for an individual. It's okay to not like or disagree but to fabricate conclusions is so transparent especially when you have no basis for the depiction.
 

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I've owned 3 legitimate businesses. I've been bankrupt before. Trump has never been bankrupt but he is no stranger to using it. But we are taking about if he is lazy or not since that is what you said. Basically you don't know what you're taking about. I don't care if you met someone that owned a business. Please don't try to be an expert by association. That is rerarded.

Running an organization not only take engagement, hard work and fortitude, it also takes your attention Ina regular basis. It consumes your. Or at least it does for a number of years. I honestly think trump would be a terrible president but to suggest that he's just some lazy idiot is pretty lazy in itself.
Unless you suck at it, which Trump does. He's not a competent business man. If he had invested his inheritance in the S&P he would have been more financially successful, and that's without ever scamming investors.

He's not a legitimate business man. You shouldn't insult yourself by comparing him to you.
 

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If Trump is so indisposable to his businesses, how can he run presidential campaigns without it affecting his companies? Because he's a real estate owner who collects rent checks. Trump Steaks, Trump U, USFL, Trump towers, Trump airlines, Trump casinos. Either he's not involved with these things, or worse he butts in and ruins them.
 
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