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    The Outrage Thread

    Don't know where to put this....I think that we need a general outrage thread or something...

    “As a police officer and police academy instructor, I am posting this as a public service announcement,” Ryan began. “In Texas, Criminal Mischief (Vandalism) is a crime. So, let’s say someone is defacing or destroying a monument or a statue, not that it happens, just a hypothetical. That would be Criminal Mischief under Texas Penal Code.”


    Screenshot of Officer Ryan’s post before it was removed from Facebook
    After studying the Texas Penal Code “Chapter 9.41,” Ryan explains that
    a person “is justified” when they use deadly force when they think it is necessary to stop the other person interfering with the property. He goes on to explain that “Chapter 9.42” allows for the use of deadly force in the instance of “criminal mischief during the nighttime, citing the Texas Penal Code that goes as follows:
    Sec. 28.03. CRIMINAL MISCHIEF.
    (a) A person commits an offense if, without the effective consent of the owner:
    (1) he intentionally or knowingly damages or destroys the tangible property of the owner;
    (2) he intentionally or knowingly tampers with the tangible property of the owner and causes pecuniary loss or substantial inconvenience to the owner or a third person; or
    (3) he intentionally or knowingly makes markings, including inscriptions, slogans, drawings, or paintings, on the tangible property of the owner.

    Texas Penal Code Chapter 9, which are the laws concerning the use of force and deadly force to protect yourself, someone else, your property, or someone else’s property (could be state, county or municipal property (the peoples). In Chapter 9 under defense of property it says:

    Sec. 9.43. PROTECTION OF THIRD PERSON’S PROPERTY.
    A person is justified in using force or deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property of a third person if, under the circumstances as he reasonably believes them to be, the actor would be justified under Section 9.41 or 9.42 in using force or deadly force to protect his own land or property and:
    (1) the actor reasonably believes the unlawful interference constitutes attempted or consummated theft of or criminal mischief to the tangible, movable property;

    Chapter 9.41 states: PROTECTION OF ONE’S OWN PROPERTY.
    (a) A person in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the other’s trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the property (Criminal Mischief is unlawful interference with property).

    Chapter 9.42 states: DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY.
    A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:
    (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
    (A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime (Night time is 30 minutes after sunset until 30 minutes before sunrise).

    “Bottom line, if someone is destroying a monument or statue that isn’t theirs, you can defend it by force during the day with deadly force at night. Just a little tip, from your Uncle Phil,” the police officer concluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidadl View Post
    Don't know where to put this....I think that we need a general outrage thread or something...

    “As a police officer and police academy instructor, I am posting this as a public service announcement,” Ryan began. “In Texas, Criminal Mischief (Vandalism) is a crime. So, let’s say someone is defacing or destroying a monument or a statue, not that it happens, just a hypothetical. That would be Criminal Mischief under Texas Penal Code.”


    Screenshot of Officer Ryan’s post before it was removed from Facebook
    After studying the Texas Penal Code “Chapter 9.41,” Ryan explains that
    a person “is justified” when they use deadly force when they think it is necessary to stop the other person interfering with the property. He goes on to explain that “Chapter 9.42” allows for the use of deadly force in the instance of “criminal mischief during the nighttime, citing the Texas Penal Code that goes as follows:
    Sec. 28.03. CRIMINAL MISCHIEF.
    (a) A person commits an offense if, without the effective consent of the owner:
    (1) he intentionally or knowingly damages or destroys the tangible property of the owner;
    (2) he intentionally or knowingly tampers with the tangible property of the owner and causes pecuniary loss or substantial inconvenience to the owner or a third person; or
    (3) he intentionally or knowingly makes markings, including inscriptions, slogans, drawings, or paintings, on the tangible property of the owner.

    Texas Penal Code Chapter 9, which are the laws concerning the use of force and deadly force to protect yourself, someone else, your property, or someone else’s property (could be state, county or municipal property (the peoples). In Chapter 9 under defense of property it says:

    Sec. 9.43. PROTECTION OF THIRD PERSON’S PROPERTY.
    A person is justified in using force or deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property of a third person if, under the circumstances as he reasonably believes them to be, the actor would be justified under Section 9.41 or 9.42 in using force or deadly force to protect his own land or property and:
    (1) the actor reasonably believes the unlawful interference constitutes attempted or consummated theft of or criminal mischief to the tangible, movable property;

    Chapter 9.41 states: PROTECTION OF ONE’S OWN PROPERTY.
    (a) A person in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the other’s trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the property (Criminal Mischief is unlawful interference with property).

    Chapter 9.42 states: DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY.
    A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:
    (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
    (A) to prevent the other’s imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime (Night time is 30 minutes after sunset until 30 minutes before sunrise).

    “Bottom line, if someone is destroying a monument or statue that isn’t theirs, you can defend it by force during the day with deadly force at night. Just a little tip, from your Uncle Phil,” the police officer concluded.
    Yeah, I'm not sure that is the most responsible thing for him to post.
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    Probably not the smartest thing he could have done. Yes, it's in there just as he said. Yes it is the law. But in this environment of hyper attention to everything that could stir the pot, it isn't something a LE official should be calling direct attention to. Besides, people who lawfully carry or have an ounce of give a damn, are already going to know what the law allows or doesn't. And even the dumber ones aren't going to want to be the one that is the test case for trial under current circumstances.

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    ESPN pulls Asian-American announcer from Virginia football game because he has a Confederate general's name


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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    ESPN pulls Asian-American announcer from Virginia football game because he has a Confederate general's name

    And you know what causes this, right?

    A bunch of entitled kids who get "triggered" by something that you really really have to think hard about to honestly get upset.

    Wait. His name is Robert Lee. That's the same as that racist Robert E. Lee!


    Nevermind he is a minority and probably some poor bitch that really could have used the work.

    This is the fear corporations have right now.

    Can't piss off the trigger capable.

    It is pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BipolarFan View Post
    ESPN pulls Asian-American announcer from Virginia football game because he has a Confederate general's name

    That shit must be made up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angrymesscan View Post
    That shit must be made up.
    Well, there is a reason Trump keeps banging the "Fake News" drum.

    I think this one is legit. But it is more of a case of understanding how our victim culture is affecting every facet of our lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boozeman View Post
    Well, there is a reason Trump keeps banging the "Fake News" drum.

    I think this one is legit. But it is more of a case of understanding how our victim culture is affecting every facet of our lives.

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    You gringos be crazy....
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    Quote Originally Posted by boozeman View Post
    Well, there is a reason Trump keeps banging the "Fake News" drum.

    I think this one is legit. But it is more of a case of understanding how our victim culture is affecting every facet of our lives.
    It's unfuckingbelievable. When I first saw this story it was on FB, and my first reaction was, "Oh bullshit, this has to be fake."

    Nope. Just unreal.
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