PFT: Lawyer says email shows Eli Manning defrauded memorabilia collectors

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Lawyer says email shows Eli Manning defrauded memorabilia collectors
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 13, 2017, 5:22 PM EDT

A significant piece of evidence has emerged in the longstanding lawsuit pitting sports memorabilia collectors against the Giants and Eli Manning.

An email sent from Manning to the Giants’ equipment manager in 2010 requested “2 helmets that can pass as game used,” according to court documents obtained by the New York Post. That email, according to plaintiffs’ lawyer Brian Brook, shows that Manning was knowingly passing off any old Giants helmets as helmets he actually wore in games. Manning is accused of working with memorabilia dealer Steiner Sports to sell helmets to fans who thought they were buying authentic game-used gear.

Brook told the Post that the email represents “direct evidence that Manning knowingly gave fraudulent helmets to Steiner for sale to fans.”

The email had not previously been disclosed. Brook accused the Giants of deleting emails that could have reflected badly on the team in this case, but this email came from Manning’s personal account. Brook did credit Manning and his attorneys for disclosing the email.

The defendants in the case include not only Manning and Steiner Sports but also the Giants, the team’s equipment manager and others.

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Ruh roh. 1 year suspension should just about do it.
 

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I'll never understand this. Why? He's made a zillion dollars playing.
 

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So, for all the lawyers on the board, what kind of repercussions is he looking at here from a legal standpoint?
 

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NFL has no comment on Giants, Eli Manning*lawsuit

Posted by Mike Florio on April 14, 2017, 8:07 PM EDT


Hiding in plain sight for more than three years, the civil suit against the Giants and quarterback Eli Manning alleging fraudulent memorabilia sales took on new significance on Thursday, via the report from the New York Post regarding an arguable smoking-gun email from Manning that the plaintiffs believe proves active involvement in a scheme to pass off helmets*as game used when they weren’t.

At a time when plenty (including Chris Christie) have a lot to say about it, the NFL has nothing to say.

“We will decline comment,” league spokesman Brian McCarthy told PFT by email on Friday evening.

Although the situation doesn’t involve the violation of any in-game rules and despite the fact that no criminal charges have been filed, the NFL could wedge the situation into the scope of the Personal Conduct Policy, if the league wants to proceed in that fashion.

“Conduct by anyone in the league that is illegal, violent, dangerous, or irresponsible puts innocent victims at risk, damages the reputation of others in the game, and undercuts public respect and support for the NFL,” the Personal Conduct Policy broadly*provides in one of its preliminary paragraphs.* “We must endeavor at all times to be people of high character; we must show respect for others inside and outside our workplace; and we must strive to conduct ourselves in ways that favorably reflect on ourselves, our teams, the communities we represent, and the NFL.”

The laundry list of prohibited acts appearing later in the policy*includes the following: “Crimes of dishonesty such as blackmail, extortion, fraud, money laundering, or racketeering.”

Pre-Ray Rice, there could be no crime without a criminal prosecution. Now that the league has decided to disregard the decisions made by the criminal justice system and to engage in its own investigation, it’s possible (if the league so desires) that this situation could result in not only a review but also the imposition of discipline.

The league could proceed now if it wants. If a verdict ultimately is entered against the Giants and/or Eli, it would be harder for the NFL to do nothing. Either way, the Giants and Eli need to take into account the possibility of a league investigation when considering whether to settle the case before any additional proof of fraud or other conduct prohibited by the Personal Conduct Policy becomes public.
 

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Has Giants memorabilia case triggered criminal*probe?

Posted by Mike Florio on April 15, 2017, 8:30 PM EDT

It will be somewhat easy for the NFL to look the other way on the Giants’ memorabilia fraud allegations as long as the claims arise only in civil litigation. If/when the situation morphs into *a formal criminal investigation announced by the relevant authorities, it will be harder for the NFL to choose not to apply the plain language*of the Personal Conduct Policy, which*expressly encompasses fraud as a prohibited behavior.

For now, it appears that the wheels of justice have been moving, quietly and behind the scenes.

Via the New York Post, “the US*Postal Service has opened a probe into the Giants memorabilia scandal with the help of federal prosecutors.” The Post notes that it’s not clear whether the investigation is ongoing.

According to the Post, court papers claim that federal agents interviewed Giants equipment manager Jeff Skiba as recently as October “in connection with . . . memorabilia fraud.” Likewise, Giants’ lawyers reportedly confirmed in a court filing that the United States Attorney’s Office in Manhattan opened a criminal investigation immediately after the filing of the civil lawsuit.

The Post explains that the supposed smoking-gun email from Eli Manning couldn’t form the basis of criminal charges because it was sent in 2010, and the statute of limitations for criminal fraud is only five years. However, the email likely can be used as evidence of any misconduct that may have occurred within the five-year window.

Prosecutors often don’t publicly declare the existence of an investigation until they do, typically through obtaining indictments or*executing search warrants. If anyone from the Giants is ever indicted for memorabilia fraud,*it would become virtually impossible for the league to do nothing in response.
 

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Brought down by this guy:

 

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What a dumb shit.
 

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He's a Manning so the NFL will look for any reason to clear his name.
 

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For as likable as Peyton always has been, Eli is just a weird and uncomfortable dude. I just don't like him and I'm not even really sure why.
 

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For as likable as Peyton always has been, Eli is just a weird and uncomfortable dude. I just don't like him and I'm not even really sure why.
Because he is a spoiled little whiny bitch. He proved that starting all the way back the year he got drafted.
 

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NFL has no comment on Giants, Eli Manning*lawsuit

Posted by Mike Florio on April 14, 2017, 8:07 PM EDT


Hiding in plain sight for more than three years, the civil suit against the Giants and quarterback Eli Manning alleging fraudulent memorabilia sales took on new significance on Thursday, via the report from the New York Post regarding an arguable smoking-gun email from Manning that the plaintiffs believe proves active involvement in a scheme to pass off helmets*as game used when they weren’t.

At a time when plenty (including Chris Christie) have a lot to say about it, the NFL has nothing to say.

“We will decline comment,” league spokesman Brian McCarthy told PFT by email on Friday evening.

Although the situation doesn’t involve the violation of any in-game rules and despite the fact that no criminal charges have been filed, the NFL could wedge the situation into the scope of the Personal Conduct Policy, if the league wants to proceed in that fashion.

“Conduct by anyone in the league that is illegal, violent, dangerous, or irresponsible puts innocent victims at risk, damages the reputation of others in the game, and undercuts public respect and support for the NFL,” the Personal Conduct Policy broadly*provides in one of its preliminary paragraphs.* “We must endeavor at all times to be people of high character; we must show respect for others inside and outside our workplace; and we must strive to conduct ourselves in ways that favorably reflect on ourselves, our teams, the communities we represent, and the NFL.”

The laundry list of prohibited acts appearing later in the policy*includes the following: “Crimes of dishonesty such as blackmail, extortion, fraud, money laundering, or racketeering.”

Pre-Ray Rice, there could be no crime without a criminal prosecution. Now that the league has decided to disregard the decisions made by the criminal justice system and to engage in its own investigation, it’s possible (if the league so desires) that this situation could result in not only a review but also the imposition of discipline.

The league could proceed now if it wants. If a verdict ultimately is entered against the Giants and/or Eli, it would be harder for the NFL to do nothing. Either way, the Giants and Eli need to take into account the possibility of a league investigation when considering whether to settle the case before any additional proof of fraud or other conduct prohibited by the Personal Conduct Policy becomes public.
Fvck the NFL and their preferential treatment of certain "cornerstone" franchises and football families. The league lets sh!t slide when they want to without blinking an eye.

Oh and double fvck Goodell. He's the king of the a$$ kissers.
 

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Fvck the NFL and their preferential treatment of certain "cornerstone" franchises and football families. The league lets sh!t slide when they want to without blinking an eye.

Oh and double fvck Goodell. He's the king of the a$$ kissers.
Doesn't Jerry want to cut his pay or something too? I'm sure he hates Jerry Jones.
 

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Doesn't Jerry want to cut his pay or something too? I'm sure he hates Jerry Jones.
It wouldn't surprise me. Love him or hate him, Jerral is a prominent figure in the league and I'm sure there have been some power struggles between the two of them.
 

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Fvck the NFL and their preferential treatment of certain "cornerstone" franchises and football families. The league lets sh!t slide when they want to without blinking an eye.

Oh and double fvck Goodell. He's the king of the a$$ kissers.
Hey, just a heads up, you can say fuck, shit, and ass without disguise. :thumbsup
 

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It wouldn't surprise me. Love him or hate him, Jerral is a prominent figure in the league and I'm sure there have been some power struggles between the two of them.
A lot of folks have already commented on how Jerry Jones is like the pseudo commissioner. Didn't they say that Jones was person most responsible for getting the Raiders moved to Vegas?
 

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Hey, just a heads up, you can say fuck, shit, and ass without disguise. :thumbsup
I don't think he was disguising it. Maybe he's a good Christian and didn't want to commit all the way to using that kind of language.

If you use asterisks and dollar signs it doesn't count. :art
 
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