The Cowboys need to draft a quarterback -- just not at No. 4

fortsbest

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I think Goff will be the first QB taken and will be gone by the 4th pick, but I take Lynch or Wentz at 4 and know within 2 years I have my starter for the next 10.
 

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I think Goff will be the first QB taken and will be gone by the 4th pick, but I take Lynch or Wentz at 4 and know within 2 years I have my starter for the next 10.
Is Wentz really worth a #4 pick? I've heard that he was climbing but I haven't heard any word of him being a Top 5 pick.
 

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Is Wentz really worth a #4 pick? I've heard that he was climbing but I haven't heard any word of him being a Top 5 pick.
Not at the moment, no, he's not considered a Top 5 guy.

At the end of it all, who knows. Phillip Rivers was a second round type in his draft and killed it to move up.
 

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Not at the moment, no, he's not considered a Top 5 guy.

At the end of it all, who knows. Phillip Rivers was a second round type in his draft and killed it to move up.
That's very true. I'm wondering if we should trade down if we're targeting him in the 1st.

I'll be honest, I don't know enough about Wentz to give an honest opinion about him. Granted, I've heard good things about him and am interesting in seeing more about what he might be able to bring to the team if we decide to draft him.
 

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That's very true. I'm wondering if we should trade down if we're targeting him in the 1st.

I'll be honest, I don't know enough about Wentz to give an honest opinion about him. Granted, I've heard good things about him and am interesting in seeing more about what he might be able to bring to the team if we decide to draft him.
Start here.

http://draftbreakdown.com/?s=carson+wentz
 

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I'm wondering if we should trade down if we're targeting him in the 1st.
Either he's looked at as a franchise QB or he isn't. If the scouts and coaches decide he's good enough to draft in the first, don't get cute trying to trade down and take the chance of losing him. If you decide that he's the one, take him at #4 and don't look back. QB is too important a position to screw around.
 

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Either he's looked at as a franchise QB or he isn't. If the scouts and coaches decide he's good enough to draft in the first, don't get cute trying to trade down and take the chance of losing him. If you decide that he's the one, take him at #4 and don't look back. QB is too important a position to screw around.
This is exactly what I'm thinking... does this kid look like he could lock down the position for us for 10+ years (even if he does not start for a year or two)? If the answer is yes... it does not matter where we draft him, as long as we get him.
 

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Either he's looked at as a franchise QB or he isn't. If the scouts and coaches decide he's good enough to draft in the first, don't get cute trying to trade down and take the chance of losing him. If you decide that he's the one, take him at #4 and don't look back. QB is too important a position to screw around.
I totally agree with that logic. I'm just trying to wrap my head around how a retard, err.. I mean Jerruh, would think and the excuses for him not drafting him at 4.
 

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The way I see it - as long as they don't draft a DB, I'll be happy.
 

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Either he's looked at as a franchise QB or he isn't. If the scouts and coaches decide he's good enough to draft in the first, don't get cute trying to trade down and take the chance of losing him. If you decide that he's the one, take him at #4 and don't look back. QB is too important a position to screw around.
That's my position as well. If he fits the ticket why quibble over a few pundit rating numbers.
 

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When has this board ever liked DBs early in the draft? I can't remember any since we thought Roy Williams would be a monster. I could think of worse picks than Ramsey at 4. Imagine having two ultra athletic safety/CB hybrids that can essentially cover anyone lined up on the field. With Ramsey, you might even add another slash: S/CB/LB. Ramsey could be a more athletic Darren Woodson. Nothing wrong with that at 4.
 

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When has this board ever liked DBs early in the draft? I can't remember any since we thought Roy Williams would be a monster. I could think of worse picks than Ramsey at 4. Imagine having two ultra athletic safety/CB hybrids that can essentially cover anyone lined up on the field. With Ramsey, you might even add another slash: S/CB/LB. Ramsey could be a more athletic Darren Woodson. Nothing wrong with that at 4.
I'm kind of okay with Ramsey at 4 as well. Honestly, there isn't a guy at 4 I don't like. I think it is more important to hit our homerun at 34 since our 2nd round draft picks aren't always too good.

At 4 any of these guys is fine. Bosa, Tunsil, Goff, Lynch, Ramsey, Jack

I don't see us taking a DT at 4 but even there im okay with it. Not happy, but ok. Just no Hargraeves and pretty much im good.
 

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What about Wentz at 34?
 

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forgot to mention Wentz. If he does well at the Senior Bowl I am happy as a pig in shit to get him at 4 too. Or trade down a few picks and I'd be ecstatic
 
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