Do you bring Hardy back?

Jiggyfly · Jan 5, 2016

I have no issue bringing Hardy back based on his attitude but I don't know if he is worth a huge contract moving forward.

He just never looked like a consistent pro bowl type pass rusher this year and he kind of disappeared at the end of they year.

The question is do you want him back and at what cost?

I think at this point I say no and roll with Gregory and Lawrence with another veteran brought in and another draft choice.

Rev · Jan 5, 2016

I want to bring him back. I don't know the value but even though he didn't have the 20 sacks he did demand attention. He is proven as well and I think the down year was due more to the off the field distractions than anything else. Another year removed should help and hopefully somebody can reach him. Would love to see a Lawrence and dedicated Hardy.

Jiggyfly · Jan 5, 2016

Rev said:
I want to bring him back. I don't know the value but even though he didn't have the 20 sacks he did demand attention. He is proven as well and I think the down year was due more to the off the field distractions than anything else. Another year removed should help and hopefully somebody can reach him. Would love to see a Lawrence and dedicated Hardy.

I would love to see that but do you want to spend 10 mill plus a year and hope that he regains form?

Rev · Jan 5, 2016

Jiggyfly said:
I would love to see that but do you want to spend 10 mill plus a year and hope that he regains form?

Can we afford that? Doubt it. Do I want to? Yes. If I would have seen more from Gregory then maybe that would change my mind. Maybe it's a case of going through years searching for a pass rush. Right now you have a guy that can and in his prime. Hard for me to pass that up.

Smitty · Jan 5, 2016

Depends how much he costs. I'm interested in spending done free agency coin re-tooling the secondary, and I might be interested in a guy like Eric Berry if available. Part with Wilcox and Church, at least as starters.

BipolarFuk · Jan 5, 2016

How much do you pay for a 6 sack guy? Over 16 games that is only 8.

Genghis Khan · Jan 5, 2016

Yes. But I'd like to see his head in a better place, and I'd like to see our robot be in his corner a little.

boozeman · Jan 5, 2016

I do, under similar terms. A quick and dirty incentive contract easy to get out of.

boozeman · Jan 5, 2016

Genghis Khan said:
Yes. But I'd like to see his head in a better place, and I'd like to see our robot be in his corner a little.

Fuck Garrett and who he likes and doesn't like. He is running around screaming the virtues of Terrence Williams and that guy came up small when we needed him.

arcticdiesel · Jan 5, 2016

boozeman said:
I do, under similar terms. A quick and dirty incentive contract easy to get out of.

Agreed. I would think this season he would have been as motivated as he will ever be. Big contract not only ties the teams hands, he loses some of that motivation.

Jiggyfly · Jan 5, 2016

mschmidt64 said:
Depends how much he costs. I'm interested in spending done free agency coin re-tooling the secondary, and I might be interested in a guy like Eric Berry if available. Part with Wilcox and Church, at least as starters.

I would be very interested in using that money on somebody like Berry.

Berry and Jones would be a very interesting Safety tandem, I would keep Wilcox as depth and special teams, probably Church as well since they are both cheap.

Jiggyfly · Jan 5, 2016

boozeman said:
I do, under similar terms. A quick and dirty incentive contract easy to get out of.

Does he sign another one of those and if he does not do you let him walk?

Cotton · Jan 5, 2016

I would. He sat for an entire year and still came back and got 6 sacks in 12 games. With this year and then a full offseason under his belt going into next year, he should be even better.

Genghis Khan · Jan 5, 2016

I also like that Hardy can get nasty. We need that.

Genghis Khan · Jan 5, 2016

boozeman said:
Fuck Garrett and who he likes and doesn't like. He is running around screaming the virtues of Terrence Williams and that guy came up small when we needed him.

True but given that Garrett will be there whether we like it or not, I feel like hardy could be more productive if the coach throws him a little support.

Simpleton · Jan 5, 2016

Yes, I want him back if he doesn't demand an exorbitant deal.

3-4 years, about 25-35 million, about 15 guaranteed is fine by me and we could get out of the deal very easily after 2 years.

Jiggyfly · Jan 5, 2016

Iamtdg said:
I would. He sat for an entire year and still came back and got 6 sacks in 12 games. With this year and then a full offseason under his belt going into next year, he should be even better.

He had a full offseason last year, I don't understand why you would expect much difference.

How are you willing to guarantee at this chance he is much better?

boozeman · Jan 5, 2016

Jiggyfly said:
Does he sign another one of those and if he does not do you let him walk?

I don't think he will have much of a choice honestly. The guy has already come out and thrown his cards on the table that he wants to stay. That is not common with players that know they are marketable. So yeah, I offer that kind of deal. If he turns up his nose, fine.

Jiggyfly · Jan 5, 2016

Simpleton said:
Yes, I want him back if he doesn't demand an exorbitant deal.

3-4 years, about 25-35 million, about 15 guaranteed is fine by me and we could get out of the deal very easily after 2 years.

If you are Hardy do you take that?

I would love to have him at that but I don't think that gets him on board.

I will admit that the market might not be more in line with him getting around 9 mill per with incentives.

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Simpleton · Jan 5, 2016

I also don't think Eric Berry is a very realistic FA option, I can't see the Chiefs letting him walk.

A guy like Tashaun Gipson or Eric Weddle is much more likely.

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