Schefter: Dallas could take another look at Manziel

ravidubey

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Genghis Khan said:
I disagree on both points.

Romo, for example.
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Romo>>Stafford

Dallas re-signed Romo. Detroit might let Stafford go, which I think was c-rock's point. If he's let go by the team that fricking drafted him that desperately needs a good QB, he's probably not a franchise-carrier.
 
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ravidubey said:
Romo>>Stafford

Dallas re-signed Romo. Detroit might let Stafford go, which I think was c-rock's point. If he's let go by the team that fricking drafted him that desperately needs a good QB, he's probably not a franchise-carrier.
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I agree Romo is better. My point is that Romo is a good QB that has not been able to carry a franchise.

To me, a QB who can carry a franchise is elite, not good. And those guys are very hard to find.

Luckily, a good QB is enough if you draft well. The formula is: good QB, plus balance on offense, plus a good pass rush, plus someone who can cover. You have those things, you can compete.

And for the good QB you are going to pay through the nose sooner or later, because there are at most about 15 of them at any given time.

Which is why you can't worry about what you are paying your good QB once you find him, because there aren't nearly enough to go around. That doesn't mean don't try to save as much as you can on the QB contract. But what it does mean is you can't let the expense keep you from signing a good QB. Too many teams are struggling just to find one in the first place.

Whether Stafford is a good QB is a separate debate, but I believe he is. I thinkif Detroit consistently provided him with a balanced offense and good defense (and good coaching), they'd be consistent playoff contenders. And honestly, you might say the same about Romo.
 
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Joe Fan has been referred to for years and now he is here. How many sites can say they have a Joe Fan?
 
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Genghis Khan said:
In a sense, yes. But carried them where? 8-8?

The one year they gave him balance on offense and defensive turnovers, they were a title contender.
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He has gone to the playoffs multiple times. He has won a couple of playoff games.

Stafford has a 84.6 career QB rating. I think he has some talent but he is the type of QB where everything has to go right for him to have a shot at making the playoffs. That isn't Tony Romo. That's Jay Cutler.

I think we have very different opinions of Stafford, that's all. If this was young Drew Brees as a free agent again, I'd break the bank.
 
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Stafford with the worlds greatest OL, though.

All that time to survey the field!
 
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If we go a veteran route I'd prefer Stafford over the talk of Manziel, RGIII, Kaepernick, etc.
 
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If the Bears dump Cutler I wonder if anyone wants him as a starter or if he's fallen into backup territory.
 
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Clay_Allison said:
If the Bears dump Cutler I wonder if anyone wants him as a starter or if he's fallen into backup territory.
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He has actually done okay this year. Amazing what working with Adam Gase versus whatever schlub Lovie Smith stuck him with.
 
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